Rogean - Open Discussion for Forced PNP (Play Nice Policy)

[Retti_]

Good post by Kergan.

Rexx honestly your play time was so low it's was me and Ames leading with Lewis helping orchestrate raids and recruitment.

You were just a name and knew little about the PvE and pressed auto attack. No hard feelings just box lyfe.

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by Retti_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good post by Kergan.

Rexx honestly your play time was so low it's was me and Ames leading with Lewis helping orchestrate raids and recruitment.

You were just a name and knew little about the PvE and pressed auto attack. No hard feelings just box lyfe.

Ok if you want to get into the semantics of it, you guys did more leading than me, cool. Doesn't change the fact that Nihilum still did what they did. I probably would of played more had I not been griefed nearly every moment I was online. I only took over leadership because knuckle and crew asked me to. I had no intentions of coming back and starting a guild.

This all circles back to the fact that I don't have the time for this game like I used to and don't care as much as most people who play.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ actually isn't hard. It's far easier than WoW raiding for example. Beyond that, your example is absurd. "Training" makes the game real hard also, but we've agreed that you're not allowed to train. Ninja looting is real "hard" but we've agreed that's against the rules. Etc., etc., some behaviors have been considered so unacceptable as to have rules against them. In my opinion, this should be one of them. Shrug.

I guess we'll agree to disagree about the WoW vs EQ raiding thing. I found WoW raids to be exceptionally difficult for those people who couldn't follow moderately complex direction very well (those players would have a much easier time with EQ raids). But for anyone who knows their shit, WoW raids pretty much boil down to reacting properly to several scripted events over a few minutes or so. Most of the "hard" encounters are purely gear driven DPS races against an enrage timer.

EQ raiding has much more RNG to it. AoW isn't going to yell something and put red circles on the ground when he is about to gib your tank. The ease of EQ raiding comes mostly from the fact you can truly zerg it up until PoP. If you tried to tackle EQ raids with the minimum recommended players every time it would be hard as shit.

As for the rest of your post, you're certainly entitled to your opinion of course. I just prefer a system where control can be established, and that I can't be forced to let an enemy go where they want. One of the most epic events in SZ history is when Ruin almost had their corpses camped to the point of expiration (without any nice GMs to summon them to EC tunnel). It was basically a non stop continuous guild vs guild battle until another evil guild bailed them out at the 11th hour.

[Retti_]

That sz corpse camp in skyshrine? Pretty epic historical event.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The funny thing is the players decided on the rule set back in the day from merely speculation - now that we see it in practice we're supposed to not have a say in what works and doesn't?

The kid is ignorant, pointless to argue with one that has no information or knowledge on the subject.

Really? That was dumb. They should have decided on a ruleset based on the several years of direct experience with different rulesets on other EQ PVP servers. It's a shame they just picked shit out of a hat instead of having a bunch of people who played RZ, SZ, VZ, TZ, VZTZ, etc giving input based on personal experiences.

[Stasis01]

I was maybe a little hard on Rexx, as I am all for people getting geared and peacing out.

The thing that bugged me was the timing - it's like oh, we're contesting/putting pressure, time to use that momentum to jump ship and shank you in the back!

Least I can say I didn't do that to the resistance, as my crew quit.

Either way who gives a fuck, if Rexx wants to come help the resistance we'd gladly accept him and anyone who can show up and stfu and help try to change this bullshit situation.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really? That was dumb. They should have decided on a ruleset based on the several years of direct experience with different rulesets on other EQ PVP servers. It's a shame they just picked shit out of a hat instead of having a bunch of people who played RZ, SZ, VZ, TZ, VZTZ, etc giving input based on personal experiences.

Things that worked in classic don't work here for various reasons, partially because online gamers are different nowadays and player enforced rules that worked on classic aren't relevant here due to the level of hardcore douchebags/trolls in this day and age.

Listen you fuck, more listening and reading less talking, learn some shit fuck face.

[Retti_]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was maybe a little hard on Rexx, as I am all for people getting geared and peacing out.

The thing that bugged me was the timing - it's like oh, we're contesting/putting pressure, time to use that momentum to jump ship and shank you in the back!

Least I can say I didn't do that to the resistance, as my crew quit.

Either way who gives a fuck, if Rexx wants to come help the resistance we'd gladly accept him and anyone who can show up and stfu and help try to change this bullshit situation.

That's funny I remember being in dentists and heresy trying to convince everyone in Nihilum to disband also

Your a clown

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The funny thing is the players decided on the rule set back in the day from merely speculation - now that we see it in practice we're supposed to not have a say in what works and doesn't?

The kid is ignorant, pointless to argue with one that has no information or knowledge on the subject.

Also, I've found that when people start calling someone a kid, child, etc that is generally because they need to feel a sense of superiority when their perceived one is slipping away. Typically someone losing an argument. Just saying.

Also I'm 32.

Thanks.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Retti_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's funny I remember being in dentists and heresy trying to convince everyone in Nihilum to disband also

Your a clown

You obviously don't remember when I left, because all my pals quit - and when trying to get Dacbane to help us PVP he spammed that Ambrotos is a faggot till he was banned.

Expecting someone to just come back after you quit and leave the cause is pretty high expectations, I wouldn't expect someone to come back after I already ditched them - but I don't blame them for their choices, I just made my own?