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Yep, sure do oh magnificent Skittlez. 10 11.76%
Nope, oh glorious and powerful Skittlez. 3 3.53%
Yes and no. It can be a hit or miss. 10 11.76%
You're just a dick.. Now, give this enchanter a dex buff. 62 72.94%
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:54 PM
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So you have an enc in the group and you're the one doing haste? And then you whine about having to do a str buff every 30-60 min, a buff that is actually wildly mana efficient compared to any form of dps you may have? Fuck off, scrub shaman.
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:02 PM
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Atmas, there's a level range where it's really an issue of choosing amongst buffs when there's just not enough mana for everything. At 29, your healer won't have cheal, so you should regen the tank, puller, and yourself (300 mana every ~10 min). All melee, let's say you've got 3 of them, are going to want quickness if you don't have an enchanter (240 mana ever ~10 min).

You'll be meditating ~12 mana per tick if you don't miss a tick, and you'll be regen'ing 8 hp per tick if you're barb/ogre, 11 if you're iksar/troll. Assuming you take no hits and never cap out on hp, you're getting 20 mana for every 50 hp you regen.

So for a barb/ogre, that's 15.2 mana per tick and for iksar/troll it's 16.4 mana per tick. You tick ~100 times between rebuffs. So for an untwinked shm doing everything he can to max his mana regen, barb/ogre's mana regen is 1520 mana and iksar/troll's is 1640 mana between necessary buffs.

So just minimal regen/haste at lvl 29 is going to take up 32.9 to 35.5% of maximum mana regen (assuming no external heals). No lvl 29 shaman is going to actually hit that 1520 or 1640 mana per 10 min mark, however, and the real number is likely going to be ~50% of mana regen just for those 2 buffs.

People will expect emergency roots and backup heals at least. That's easily most of the remaining mana. Sometimes additional buffs just don't fit the mana budget.
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:02 PM
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Wtf?

Chanters get talisman but tanks don't get agi and DPS gets budget buffs?

Your priorities need re-evaluating.
I think you're overvaluing the buffs that I have.

I'm also not a 60 shaman. My click buffs are currently the same as my actual buffs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] bahahahhahah

Oh and enchanter only gets talisman if he's charming. If he's not he can get a life.
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:17 PM
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woah
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:54 PM
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I think you're overvaluing the buffs that I have.

I'm also not a 60 shaman. My click buffs are currently the same as my actual buffs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] bahahahhahah

Oh and enchanter only gets talisman if he's charming. If he's not he can get a life.
I'd get some jaundiced boots and click some agi on your tank, then [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I'm also surprised your chanters aren't using their Shielding line over Talisman, especially if they're charming casters.
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:58 PM
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you're a shaman... it's what you do. reroll wizard?
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:01 PM
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anyone but main/secondary tank asking for hero and symbol for Xygoz fight SMH
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:01 PM
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I'd get some jaundiced boots and click some agi on your tank, then [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I'm also surprised your chanters aren't using their Shielding line over Talisman, especially if they're charming casters.
who charms casters

besides me that ONE TIME
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:03 PM
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Is this a serious question, because I don't know if I can give you a serious answer.
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:05 PM
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some pro chanters on blue charmin casters for them deeps
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