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Yep, sure do oh magnificent Skittlez. 10 11.76%
Nope, oh glorious and powerful Skittlez. 3 3.53%
Yes and no. It can be a hit or miss. 10 11.76%
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:28 PM
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I just take whatever buffs casters give me, especially when I first join the group and mana is probably low from buffing everyone. If I ask for a buff, I say "when mana permits, could I have blah blah".
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:36 PM
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:40 PM
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From 39 to 53 shamans heal for shit too. Not saying its just pallys.

But pallys suck and are hardly ever played right.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:42 PM
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If I group with a shaman and they don't immediately give me str/sta/dex/agi/talis I /q and add them to ignore later on when they're not online anymore.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:49 PM
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From 39 to 53 shamans heal for shit too. Not saying its just pallys.

But pallys suck and are hardly ever played right.
Not this Pally! I rock that shit.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:55 AM
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you fail as a healer if you dont know what other classes are capable of doing. go look at pally heals sometime there bud.

Just to clarify for you. From 39-53 shamans and paladins have same healing power. from 53-57 shamans have sup heal til 57 when pally gets it. Learn your shit.
Shaman get specialization (even not alteration focussed it saves mana), canni, regen, and time to sit. Paladin can't compete with that because number of HP healed per cast is insignificant compared to sustained healing output when grinding. DW hat is nice for shortening downtime some when there's no Cleric in the group, but hardly powerful and pretty much useless as combat healing (unless you count PLing a level 5 in Crushbone.)

IOW, in actual play a Paladin has far less "healing power" than any half-competent half-awake Shaman who's not too drunk to remember which hotkey is which.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:58 AM
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Strength is a long term buff....Why would it be hard to cast it once an hour ?
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:03 PM
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Strength is a long term buff....Why would it be hard to cast it once an hour ?
almost all of my buffs last less than 30 min.. dunno what you're talkin bout
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:07 PM
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almost all of my buffs last less than 30 min.. dunno what you're talkin bout
Must be pretty low level then. But yeah the time of those buffs extends greatly as you level. If you didn't want to be a buff bot you shouldn't roll a shaman.
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:10 PM
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Obviously it changes by group but you really need to simply manage what buffs go where. I'll buff with whatever I get asked for but here is the general breakdown for classes if they don't ask and I'm buffing anyways:

Myself (sham): junk buff, sow, regen, sta, tali
Tank: STR, sta, agi, Dex if warrior or proc, tali, haste, regen
DPS (rng, Rog): tali, STR, Dex if proc, haste
Casters: tali (if they want to overwrite shielding), sta, cha and regen for enc/nec.
Bard: cha, Dex, STR, tali
Others: tali, sta

If you request anything besides the preset buffs you're getting JB click buff if I have it but I'll still buff you when you request.

The thing is, in px groups, you eventually get a feeling for the needs of the group. If you're running oom or say at 15% mana perpetually and calling it out, the useless buffs (which you know to be useless to that class but buff with anyways because you were asked) start getting requested a lot less.

You can always try explaining as well why you don't want to throw agi on the Mage and really take charge of the situation.
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