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View Poll Results: Will i piss clean? And or will i get the job?
Piss clean, do well in interview and get the job 10 15.87%
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Piss dirty, get laughed at, dont get the job 43 68.25%
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:49 PM
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You need to admit your self to a clinic and get clean man, they give you detox medicine which kills the withdrawal pain. You eat healthy and damn good in there, and everything they do makes you feel better about self overall. Do it for yourself and stop asking these nerds for advice. I know you can do it brah.
He is already in a clinic, he's just not 100% committed to staying clean and making it so he has enough time for it to not show up on the urine test for the doctor. Some places make you go once a week, twice a week or once a month. So sometimes it's easier to get away with. A methadone clinic usually makes you go once a day, but methadone is the worst way to go in my opinion.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:54 PM
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try hallucinogenics like Ibogaine... apparently LSD is useful for alcoholism...

shake that brain up and see what settles back down, ya know
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:06 PM
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:24 PM
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He is already in a clinic, he's just not 100% committed to staying clean and making it so he has enough time for it to not show up on the urine test for the doctor. Some places make you go once a week, twice a week or once a month. So sometimes it's easier to get away with. A methadone clinic usually makes you go once a day, but methadone is the worst way to go in my opinion.
Nah dude you cant do outpatient if your trying to get clean specially off heroin, you gotta commit to being inside and have no way contact of friends or anyone who influences you rellapsing while trying to get help.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:24 AM
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Nah dude you cant do outpatient if your trying to get clean specially off heroin, you gotta commit to being inside and have no way contact of friends or anyone who influences you rellapsing while trying to get help.
Well everybody is different. I am seeing a doctor and also going to groups and I haven't relapsed in a few years and I have started going to school for getting my CDL. This has worked for me, but I really want to stay clean and do well. Of course I can't wait until I get off of the medication as well so I am not needing to take anything at all, but it's helped a lot and can allow you to take control of certain things in your life before you make the final step. If people quit too fast without dealing with important issues that need to be first addressed then they are likely to end right back up where they were.

I understand why people also say things like only take the medication for a couple weeks and then stop taking everything, but that's the same thing as I just said. This outpatient program helps a lot to sort everything out, but you really have to want it. They can't sit there and force you to quit and follow the program, that's gotta be on you. Either way you are going to have to go through withdrawals no matter what to be able to quit, so IMO it's best to take the option that allows you time to identify and change what needs to be changed, but it's easy with outpatient to do the minimum you have to do just to get by and stay on the program. You could fail after going in any of those directions though really. It's all relative and unique to the person which is why some things just don't work for everyone.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:25 AM
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Sorry, I tend to type a lot and too much. I like a good discussion though.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:01 AM
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Just saying, done both, outpatient is a bigger risk of rellapsing easy if friends are close that you know.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:03 AM
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Nah dude you cant do outpatient if your trying to get clean specially off heroin, you gotta commit to being inside and have no way contact of friends or anyone who influences you rellapsing while trying to get help.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:04 AM
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Well everybody is different. I am seeing a doctor and also going to groups and I haven't relapsed in a few years and I have started going to school for getting my CDL. This has worked for me, but I really want to stay clean and do well. Of course I can't wait until I get off of the medication as well so I am not needing to take anything at all, but it's helped a lot and can allow you to take control of certain things in your life before you make the final step. If people quit too fast without dealing with important issues that need to be first addressed then they are likely to end right back up where they were.

I understand why people also say things like only take the medication for a couple weeks and then stop taking everything, but that's the same thing as I just said. This outpatient program helps a lot to sort everything out, but you really have to want it. They can't sit there and force you to quit and follow the program, that's gotta be on you. Either way you are going to have to go through withdrawals no matter what to be able to quit, so IMO it's best to take the option that allows you time to identify and change what needs to be changed, but it's easy with outpatient to do the minimum you have to do just to get by and stay on the program. You could fail after going in any of those directions though really. It's all relative and unique to the person which is why some things just don't work for everyone.
This. Im in treatment for alcohol. My roommate/best friend is developing a meth problem who is needing/going to get help. But you will never treat an addiction unless you 100% want it.

With certain addictions impatient can be very valuable. Like meth, since the withdrawals can be very bad for a month or so. So being stuck in a treatment center while that is going on until your head clears up enough to think a bit more clearly is a good thing. You can also force people into treatment and have it be effective. Most addicts don't completely see how bad their own life is until they do sober up for a bit. Of course you usually get forced by a Judge.

However you will never get someone clean unless they want it. "kinda" wanting it doesn't count. You have to commit yourself 100% to changing your life. Like we all like to say about being a addict. "The <insert drug> wasn't my problem, I had that figured out. Life was my problem."

If you're working on getting clean and sober, good luck to you. It's a hard road, but in the end it can make you a truly wonderful person. The people I know who have 'beaten' there addictions tend to be far better people than people I know who never had a problem in the first place.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:28 AM
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Well everybody is different. I am seeing a doctor and also going to groups and I haven't relapsed in a few years and I have started going to school for getting my CDL. This has worked for me, but I really want to stay clean and do well. Of course I can't wait until I get off of the medication as well so I am not needing to take anything at all, but it's helped a lot and can allow you to take control of certain things in your life before you make the final step. If people quit too fast without dealing with important issues that need to be first addressed then they are likely to end right back up where they were.

I understand why people also say things like only take the medication for a couple weeks and then stop taking everything, but that's the same thing as I just said. This outpatient program helps a lot to sort everything out, but you really have to want it. They can't sit there and force you to quit and follow the program, that's gotta be on you. Either way you are going to have to go through withdrawals no matter what to be able to quit, so IMO it's best to take the option that allows you time to identify and change what needs to be changed, but it's easy with outpatient to do the minimum you have to do just to get by and stay on the program. You could fail after going in any of those directions though really. It's all relative and unique to the person which is why some things just don't work for everyone.
You still have to take meds years later? Shit.. It's great that you're doing so well. Good luck on the CDL.
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