T99 and Item Loot Poll

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by DrScience [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off, by the sounds of it - Item loot is going in regardless, Nilbog wants it.

So as that as the base line, the best way to implement it IMO having lived through the start of EverQuest on Rallos (that had item loot), you are going to end up in the same situation once one zerg is able to start farming their no drops, they get to derisk themselves by joining a large number of people and by acquiring decent gear that cannot be taken. The problem just snowballs in further expansions.


Finally, you have no proof that a server with item loot will "indisputably" result in a smaller population. Would you call the average 40 person population on Red99 (no item loot) for more than a year a success? What I can tell you is that you will lose players if you implement item loot and don't remove no drop tags because you're going to get one team mass recruiting into the biggest zerg any server has ever seen and once they start gearing up all the no drop, every small guild/team will either quit to join the zerg or quit to go back to Star Wars time. Why should we let those bluebies who are derisking the most (by joining a 100 person zerg), derisk further by being the only ones able to acquire the no drop sets.

First of all, your idea to remove no drops is counterproductive, as I just explained in your thread about it.

Secondly, the contention that I "have no proof that item loot will result in a smaller population" being made in a poll thread clearly showing 40% of players would not play on a server with item loot is one of the most moronic things I've ever read on the internet. Why, yes, I do have proof: in the poll at the top of this thread.

Further, I don't believe that item loot is set in stone at this point. Everything is up for debate until nilbog himself says that he's decided on a final ruleset.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by DrScience [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As someone who played on Rallos Zek since the beginning of time (March 1999), I implore you to remove all NO DROP tags if you're going to do item loot, or you simply kick the can further down the road in terms of people creating unbeatable zergs that overwhelm the server and snuff out the population. The first of its kind was Dark Carnival on RZ, then Sabbat, then finally Ascending Dawn. Once you guild up enough people with no drops you incur almost no risk and you can just keep adding on players and gearing them up with no drops, making item loot a very small feature of the server. If you remove no drop tags you can strategically craft it to reduce the strength that someone would get by just creating a huge zerg like Nihilum. You allow those smaller groups/guilds to make substantial gains at the expense of those who have de-risked substantially by joining an enormous guild. Thanks

Should also be able to loot entire bags and as many items as you can fit in your inventory.

Hardcore of gtfo.

[SamwiseRed]

perma death imo

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by DrScience [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, you don't seem to get it.

If you remove "NO DROP" tag on an item, it's just like a fire beetle eye or Tranix Crown or plat diamond ring. So when you go to loot a Vermiculated Bracer from plane of fear it would be tradeable just like the 3 items above it, and any other item in the game.

What are you talking about laundering and exploiting no drop tags, it makes no sense are you even thinking?? You remove the NO DROP tag and it's tradeable, reuseable, deletable, just like any other EQ item without a no drop tag why can't you grasp this.

Reading comprehension man. He clearly said we should be able to loot NON DROP ITEMS. Not "let's make non drop items droppable items".

Seriously, before I call someone out I take the 5 seconds to re-read what is being discussed so I don't look like a total toolbox.

In case you missed it:

Originally Posted by Tikku82 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they must add item loot, we should be able to loot no drop items also. That would make people want to pvp more cuz they could get the loot off pvp instead of some dragons. Make nothing permanent.

Which was the exact post I quoted in my response you quoted about.

Sheesh...

[Potus]

Item loot is horrible and never has worked. It never will work.

Would not play an item loot server at all.

[Rararboker]

Yeah, I wouldn't play with item loot either. I'll stick with red (and start playing it more) if item loot is a go on team99. Between red and blue, I'll have plenty of entertainment.

[Yagebasto]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should also be able to loot entire bags and as many items as you can fit in your inventory.

Hardcore of gtfo.

sounds like runescape [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Dullah]

EQ darkfall style.

[SamwiseRed]

need light sabers, perma death, and mounts.

shits classic.

[Rellapse35]

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