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[Andis]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand the point of the thread. You guys want to have fun and pvp.

You're your own worst enemy though. Worry about Azrael first, then worry about Nihilum.

Azrael is a good guild, you guys have some of the best pvp'ers on the box, and lite is a good guild leader who not only cares about you guys, but the whole server. Pretty fuckin rare on pvp server with this much toxicity. You guys have all the tools you need to beat Nihilum and have fun doing it. Just need to make it happen.

Server population on red higher than its been in months. Bring the fun back to Azrael, bring good times to the server, and you guys will get what you want out of the pvp raid scene.

Lol I def disagree with some of the points you just said but, not getting into that right now.

Server pop is up a bit due to the increase of exp bonus. Once this gets removed, the pop goes back down to below 100, we have ALL seen this already.

when this happens, same story, different day, not enough pop to do anything to the current problem of this server.

rinse & repeat

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol I def disagree with some of the points you just said but, not getting into that right now.

Server pop is up a bit due to the increase of exp bonus. Once this gets removed, the pop goes back down to below 100, we have ALL seen this already.

when this happens, same story, different day, not enough pop to do anything to the current problem of this server.

rinse & repeat

Server is going to BOOM once velious is released... Should be hitting 350 a night easily.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand the point of the thread. You guys want to have fun and pvp.

You're your own worst enemy though. Worry about Azrael first, then worry about Nihilum.

Azrael is a good guild, you guys have some of the best pvp'ers on the box, and lite is a good guild leader who not only cares about you guys, but the whole server. Pretty fuckin rare on pvp server with this much toxicity. You guys have all the tools you need to beat Nihilum and have fun doing it. Just need to make it happen.

Server population on red higher than its been in months. Bring the fun back to Azrael, bring good times to the server, and you guys will get what you want out of the pvp raid scene.

Azrael should rebuild, to go head to head vs a zerg larger and more geared than them, with higher % of hardcore gamers for 8+ hrs per mob until one side quits - let's roll the dice and see who that is like it has been for the past 2 years.

Asking Azrael to pound against Nihi head to head every time is crazy, and eventually the members will quit or go to the #1 spot - the ruleset is broken.

PS Azrael is just a mix of people from a bunch of different guilds/groups that all think this is lame, and are forced to group together to try and change things - which will never change with no variance.

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azrael should rebuild, to go head to head vs a zerg larger and more geared than them, with higher % of hardcore gamers for 8+ hrs per mob until one side quits - let's roll the dice and see who that is like it has been for the past 2 years.

Asking Azrael to pound against Nihi head to head every time is crazy, and eventually the members will quit or go to the #1 spot - the ruleset is broken.

PS Azrael is just a mix of people from a bunch of different guilds/groups that all think this is lame, and are forced to group together to try and change things - which will never change with no variance.

/signed

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azrael should rebuild, to go head to head vs a zerg larger and more geared than them, with higher % of hardcore gamers for 8+ hrs per mob until one side quits - let's roll the dice and see who that is like it has been for the past 2 years.

Asking Azrael to pound against Nihi head to head every time is crazy, and eventually the members will quit or go to the #1 spot - the ruleset is broken.

PS Azrael is just a mix of people from a bunch of different guilds/groups that all think this is lame, and are forced to group together to try and change things - which will never change with no variance.

Let me get this straight...

You think Azrael should be able to win with less people, worse gear, lower play time, less hardcore people?

So if I relate this to RL, you are saying someone who works more, has more dedication to their job, has more experience should get paid the same as people who dont?

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me get this straight...

You think Azrael should be able to win with less people, worse gear, lower play time, less hardcore people?

So if I relate this to RL, you are saying someone who works more, has more dedication to their job, has more experience should get paid the same as people who dont?

you dont comprehend its a cycle - or you do comprehend it, just acting dumb for forums

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come join my new guild on blue. It's called <Tinfoil Hat>



If Azrael got 0 targets on a full repop, there is something else going on besides Nihilum having too many people on to contest raid mobs. You can dodge the issue all you want, but this is a fact. Nilly zerg may be a factor, but is clearly not the only thing preventing you guys from getting raid mobs.

A poor simulation of variance once isn't going to change the culture of an entire server. Dragons need to be spread out throughout the week with variance included.

Why didn't Azrael take any dragons this week? There are like 10 people max on at a time now. This is a current dip in the resistance due to how terrible end game is here.

There are 50 people raiding in Nihilum

10 people in Azrael

Probably 10-20 other people in raid level range that just don't want to, scattered in smaller guilds.

Saying try harder is a troll.

You are telling 10 people to take on 50 people, and to try harder.

Nihilum shouldn't want more than 30 people raiding when the targets have 32k hps. Something is broken. The raiding is too easy and the pixels flow too effortlessly. Make it tougher so the 30 strongest people aren't willing to feed the bottom 20.

That was the point of the thread. It has nothing to do with why Lite didn't go kill a dragon this week with 1 full group.

[Stasis01]

I think he's just acting dumb,

I am saying there is no way a second guild can compete with the population/ruleset, pretty simple.

I was in Nihilum and left because I saw that - and without a mass of Nihilum leaving (ultimately creating the same situation with a new name) it will stay stagnant, even if all of Nihilum quit it would be some other entity that would do the same.

the system works on blue, it doesn't here - for good reason - variance.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihilum shouldn't want more than 30 people raiding when the targets have 32k hps. Something is broken. The raiding is too easy and the pixels flow too effortlessly. Make it tougher so the 30 strongest people aren't willing to feed the bottom 20.

We are preparing for Velious...Looking towards the future and what we need. You know things GOOD leadership does...

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me get this straight...

You think Azrael should be able to win with less people, worse gear, lower play time, less hardcore people?

So if I relate this to RL, you are saying someone who works more, has more dedication to their job, has more experience should get paid the same as people who dont?

Azrael had a lot of hardcore players that are on a lot, Agatha, force members and all the other guild leaders were once this group of hardcore players. Right now during a resistance low point obviously this isn't the case.

The problem isn't with strong competitors within Nihilum getting the pixels they deserve. It is with a system that promotes carrying people that don't carry their weight so you can zerg when you need to, to crush any opposition.