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[runlvlzero]

Nihilum can also take out 3 targets at once. If they chose to.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dude if u cant even get people to contest 50 neckbeards at a known time, why do you think variance will solve this? there just arnt enough players that are that dedicated to this game. i for one would never be part of a batphone system, thats just too much.

dedicated to this game...

They cant even comprehend/identify what Nihilums game is and find a way to beat it.

Keep getting them KDRs against noobs guys.

[Zalaerian]

Originally Posted by Terpuntine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's Kunark loot.. Who gives a fuck

[Andis]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get that it is harder and requires more time logged into the game when there is variance but what the opposition is hoping is that their smaller numbers can play longer hours and hopefully contest.

For Nihilum it is easy right now because they have a specific schedule where they log in as many level 60's as the rest of the server combined. Some of these players literally play 5 hours a week because it is so easy for them to jump in and down raid targets.

If you had variance Nihilum wouldn't be able to bring close to 50 players. The people playing outside of Nihilum are playing on their own schedules.

Last night for instance, if Nihilum didn't know there was a raid they might have had 10 people on. You bat phone people and maybe get another 10 players. 30 of those 50 probably won't log on because they didn't have notice and are doing something else in real life.

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think of the repop yesterday as a test of variance. Similar situations - you had a roughly +/- 12 hour window when you knew your target(s) would spawn. As soon as that server popped up on the list, you send out the batphone, everyone logs in, and you go after your target.

If nihilum got all the targets in a variance situation where every raid mob in Norrath spawned at the same time, why would you think you'd have a chance at one or two targets that Nihilum has characters camped out at with trackers ready to batphone?

cuz last night server was down for over 20 hours, when we were told 12

so it was implied, with variance, no one will know until tracker confirms

[runlvlzero]

30 of those 50 probably won't log on because they didn't have notice and are doing something else in real life.

you mean /q out of their wow raid just to stomp your pathetic ass 1 more time.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cuz last night server was down for over 20 hours, when we were told 12

"we would have done better if the downtime was more predictable" srsly?

that's actually a stronger argument for no variance

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cuz last night server was down for over 20 hours, when we were told 12

So you're saying it came up within 12 hrs of when it was supposed to?

+/- 12 hour variance. Why did nihilum get all the targets, and why do you think it will be better when they are tracking 1 or 2 with all of their characters camped at those targets as opposed to every raid mob in Norrath?

I just don't think you're going for the right solution here.

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you're saying it came up within 12 hrs of when it was supposed to?

+/- 12 hour variance. Why did nihilum get all the targets, and why do you think it will be better when they are tracking 1 or 2 with all of their characters camped at those targets as opposed to every raid mob in Norrath?

I just don't think you're going for the right solution here.

? the server was expected to come back at any point, different scenario

with variance, it wont be expected. so those 50 wont be able to log in right away, giving the other guilds a shot at least

im not saying to make it permanent here, im saying to give it a shot, and see how server reacts to it

why not give it a shot? anything is better than what it is now....

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you're saying it came up within 12 hrs of when it was supposed to?

+/- 12 hour variance. Why did nihilum get all the targets, and why do you think it will be better when they are tracking 1 or 2 with all of their characters camped at those targets as opposed to every raid mob in Norrath?

I just don't think you're going for the right solution here.

Boom Goes the Dynamite

Could not have said it better.