Custom teams

[big mouth chew]

teams: a pvp server that even scrubs can play

[SamwiseRed]

It's clear most of you didn't even play everquest back then let alone SZ. I played on all the pvp servers including discord. SZ is the best Ruleset period. If u think the Ruleset is to blame for everyone rolling evil u are an idiot. It didn't start out that wAy but sadly the player base was kinda like the one on red99. Everyone started rolling with the winning team. Only the player base can truely kill a teams server and there is nothing u can really do to stop it.

FFA is custom teams (guilds) if u want custom teams that are balanced then red99 is for u

[liveitup1216]

If SZ had been released with the other PvP servers and had the same no training/play nice policy back in the day, red99 would've been an SZ server from the start.

[Something'Witty]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Teams ruleset should not be decided based on what it best for existing Red players, but rather on what is best for the Teams server.

Given your earlier post voicing concerns about your family guild being split up in a merge, it's obvious you're speaking from a position of extreme self-interest.

I suggested this from day one of the teams rule set discussion and honestly feel it is the only balanced rule set. Would it make the merger of two servers a lot easier? Yes, at least in my view, does the staff have any thoughts?

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to make a serious suggestion, try setting aside your own glaringly obvious biases first. Here's an easy question to ask yourself to help you do that:

I accept your forumquest challenge!

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"What ruleset would I think was best for Teams if I was never going to play on the server?"

What I suggested! I played on VZ Kunark - GoD. I played on the merged PvP server for a bit (FFA). I have played on R99 for 8 months. I think FFA > Teams, but if it was going to create a teams rule set, it would be what I suggested (3 teams, chosen at chara creation). Give the race / class / religion restrictions built into EQ, it is the only way to have truly balanced teams.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"What sort of ruleset would fit with the game's lore?"

Don't care, not a role player, and I admitted that role players would HATE my suggestion.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"What rulesets have worked well in the past?"

Great question, when the PvP servers on live were merged, they were merged into a FFA rule set. I think that says a lot.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"What ruleset has the most vocal supporters?"

SZ prolly, but does that mean it is the best rule set?

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"What ruleset would do the most do encourage high population retention?"

I don't think any PvP server will end up with a population higher than what R99 has right now, but I digress.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Answer the questions honestly and you will not only see why your suggestion is silly, but the correct choise for a ruleset will become more apparent.

Your forumquest challenge did not deliver~

[SamwiseRed]

Customs teams sounds like red99 but can only join 1 of 3 guilds

[Ebony]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If u think the Ruleset is to blame for everyone rolling evil u are an idiot.

We didn't say rule set, we said Team split. If you can't tell the Team Split was the number one thing that made 80% of the server roll evil, you are the idiot, not us.

[SamwiseRed]

Naw you are for sure the idiot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Confirmed

[tomato2]

Originally Posted by big mouth chew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

teams: a pvp server that even scrubs can play

lol

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Ebony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for helping to prove our point. Team evil had Neriak, Cabilis, Grobb, Oggok & Overthere. Most of them 100% to themselves.

On Team Good we only had Halas which we had to fight for & Team Neut seemed to have it better but not by much.

The crazy race/city advantage team evil had plus team evil being the only Team that had classes all to themselves & owning Kunark, is it any wonder 80% of the server played on evil team? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Race or City Teams are FAR better then the sz disaster.

Please read my thread about how to tweak the SZ rules. It addresses all these problems.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=120312

Namely: stat bonuses to Good and Neutral team, FFA PvP on the Evil team, and FV hammers. Also a delayed launch of Kunark to deny Evils a safe haven from the get-go.

This is one of the most important points: we KNOW the weaknesses of the SZ rules. We know what went wrong, so we can fix it. The experiment was already run for us on Live, which is more than can be said for any suggested custom ruleset.

[Ebony]

Originally Posted by big mouth chew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FFA: a pvp server where even scrubs can win

Fixed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]