Best one sentence summation of how I feel, ever.

[pharmakos]

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[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, "most" historians do no such thing. All we have is the "books" written by his "apostles" almost a hundred years after his supposed death, and one real historic document that mentions the name "Jesus." Do you really believe the apostles actually "wrote" those books? Because if you do, you're an idiot. His apostles were illiterate peasants who were being subjugated by the Romans. They were desperate for anyone to tell them that everything is going to perfect in the next life because their present one really, really sucked.

The one, and only, real historic account of anyone named Jesus was by Josephus. And it's like one sentence. It's also complicated by the fact the name Jesus, the Greek translastion of Yeshua (Joshua) was as common as the name John is today. Josephus references 20 different Jesus' who were alive at that period. A time period that was 100 years before Josephus wrote about.

Since you think Wikipedia is a credible source of information, try this article. Or is that one bullshit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

Most historians do agree that Jesus existed, that is just a fact.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most historians do agree that Jesus existed, that is just a fact.

this dude gets his scripture from the history channel y'all

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it isn't. Whatever you need to tell yourself to not be afraid. It's OK, lots of people are pussies.

I'm not a Christian you dipshit, rofl.

Jesus existed, you are fucking wrong.

[Illuzionz]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't even know why they still call it Christianity. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that Paul made the shit up, just like "Moses" made Judaism up from bits and pieces of Zoroastrianism.

Lol you are mind boggling levels of retarded.

[Hasbinbad]

dude .. you want me to believe some record about some dude from 2,000 years ago as being representative of fact, especially when said document was probably forged and sold as curios in galilee for whatever a shekel was then, thousands of times over? Are you kidding me? I don't believe plato was a real person, much less socrates. jesus can get fucked.

none of that matters .. the stories we know about these "people" is all that really matters. even if they are true, they are wildly lionized etc. etc. to the point where you're not even looking at the truth anymore anyway, so.. all that matters is the fable.

[Illuzionz]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it isn't. Whatever you need to tell yourself to not be afraid. It's OK, lots of people are pussies.

It's actually you who's afraid. Jesus brings peace, not fear. It's you that's afraid of death because you are afraid of being judged because you already know how worthless you are and where your judgment will land you. Luckily for you there's still time and you can still save yourself but I'll say the odds are definitely against you.

[radditsu]

Guys guys guys.



Did you know jesus was a jew?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6vnsrmmUZ4

[pharmakos]

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[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dude .. you want me to believe some record about some dude from 2,000 years ago as being representative of fact, especially when said document was probably forged and sold as curios in galilee for whatever a shekel was then, thousands of times over? Are you kidding me? I don't believe plato was a real person, much less socrates. jesus can get fucked.

none of that matters .. the stories we know about these "people" is all that really matters. even if they are true, they are wildly lionized etc. etc. to the point where you're not even looking at the truth anymore anyway, so.. all that matters is the fable.

We don't have concrete evidence of a whole shitload of people that have existed. You can either accept the methods that we have of verifying their identities or not. But at least you don't accept it across the board...or it seems that way.

Me...i'll take the word of people who actually study history. If the general consensus among the historians changes, I'm fine with that.