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Old 08-16-2010, 12:27 PM
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Straif,
Very valid points and more what I thought I would be reading when coming on here. Is it me, or do you get the feeling the people that claim to lift the most are also the "pew pew pew" people you speak of?
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Old 08-16-2010, 12:49 PM
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Well said straif. The biggest thing I like about the crossfit program is it is typically a full body workout, and allows me to be brainless about it and follow their routine. A bicep curl isn't going to help me become any more functional. It won't help me lift a ladder, carry a patient, or give me
the cardio to keep going. At least not much. I need to work everything if
I'm going to beable to perform like I need to.


That's the biggest problem I have with gym equipment. Might make
you pretty, but it's not going to help you function too much, which is what I need.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:43 PM
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Straif,
Very valid points and more what I thought I would be reading when coming on here. Is it me, or do you get the feeling the people that claim to lift the most are also the "pew pew pew" people you speak of?
People like to boast and brag a lot. That's why there are mirrors in gyms.
I tend to take a humble approach. Your actions speak louder than words and someone, somewhere might be working ten times harder than me.
Show don't tell. My deadlift 1RM or other PR's don't mean shit to anyone else but me. So I question a person who has a psychological need to talk about their achievement's.


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Well said straif. The biggest thing I like about the crossfit program is it is typically a full body workout, and allows me to be brainless about it and follow their routine. A bicep curl isn't going to help me become any more functional. It won't help me lift a ladder, carry a patient, or give me
the cardio to keep going. At least not much. I need to work everything if
I'm going to beable to perform like I need to.

That's the biggest problem I have with gym equipment. Might make
you pretty, but it's not going to help you function too much, which is what I need.
Most of my programming is built around the Crossfit concept: Compound movements. Training is only effective if it transfers to the real thing. The real thing being work / sport / whatever.

My beef with P90x and Crossfit is that it's randomized and unstructured. It'll build a good foundation but other aspects of fitness suffered because of it. But just because it doesn't mesh with my goals doesn't mean it doesn't work. If the work is done and it produces results, the training is working.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:52 PM
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Ya Straif I've been doing p90x for about 3 years now, I'd say between 5-6 total 90 day cycles on it. I've heard a lot of people griping about how it doesn't build muscle, or is too high impact etc.

Like you have said in posts above, if your doing work and seeing results then it's for you. My background is athletic, baseball and soccer in highschool and college, currently doing MMA so doing high impact work outs for an hour a day is what my body is use too.

A lot of friends come from more of a Football/Beach body background and I tell them p90x is probably not for you. Hitting the gym with free weights and playing the beefy role versus the flexible role is just what their bodies are use to.

I like when people pick up working out again, or even start for the first time because they see immediate results. Anybody who I've pushed p90x on comes back after like 2-3 weeks with a washboard saying "wow thanks man"
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Old 08-16-2010, 02:12 PM
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The funny thing is in all of this is that physical conditioning isn't new. The only difference is that we went from a civilization that had it built in to our everyday lives to living a homogenized lifestyle and trying to make time for it.

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Old 08-16-2010, 02:27 PM
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It isn't new, but with advances in medicine and technology its been much more tested and studied over the past 4 decades as far as what is most affective. Fitness now spans a wider range of diet and training techniques than it ever did.
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Old 08-16-2010, 02:53 PM
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It isn't new, but with advances in medicine and technology its been much more tested and studied over the past 4 decades as far as what is most affective. Fitness now spans a wider range of diet and training techniques than it ever did.
This is true, which is why most elite professional athletes train in secret and notable coaches are highly sought after. But in a very broad sense of fitness and conditioning, most people don't need to complicate things as much as they do. I used to fret over specifics, luckily I met a coach who brought me down to earth. I know a few people who take training down to a science, and they work to gain only a tiny improvement. However most of them have a training history that spans 7+ years. Fractions of a second means a win or a loss in their world.

I spent a year building a solid foundation before I was allowed to start formal training.
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