Ender's Game

[Alarti0001]

Was a good movie. Didn't drift from the book but didnt go away from the action scenes for character development. Course that would have made a 5 hour movie.

[Langrisserx]

Originally Posted by Abner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Card is a great American and family man. He, like millions of others, doesn't think the definition of marriage should be changed. Hardly an asshole.

you both sound like insufferable closet gays

[Dr. Edge]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you even read the book sir? I just got home from seeing it and what a complete waste of time. Movie had their names, kids in space and pretty colors. That was about as far as they followed the books. One of the worst film adaptations I've seen.

I have a few times and I thought the movie was pretty great

[Abner]

Originally Posted by Langrisserx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you both sound like insufferable closet gays

Oh sure that makes sense. And we are secret Atheists too. sshhh... /eyeroll

[Mirana]

I thought the movie was pretty bad. It was as if they just had a checklist of scenes they needed to get to and then moved on to the next one.

The best part of the book was being inside Ender's brain, understanding how he outplayed and outwitted his opponents, understanding all of the different tactics and counter-strategies involed in the battleroom games, which the movie does very little of. They don't really develop any of the characters the way they did in the book, like Bean, Petra, etc.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Mirana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought the movie was pretty bad. It was as if they just had a checklist of scenes they needed to get to and then moved on to the next one.

The best part of the book was being inside Ender's brain, understanding how he outplayed and outwitted his opponents, understanding all of the different tactics and counter-strategies involed in the battleroom games, which the movie does very little of. They don't really develop any of the characters the way they did in the book, like Bean, Petra, etc.

^
I realize they had a limited time to fit everything in, but if you can't do it right...


I went in with low expiations due to the fact that I've read the book 30+ times and my standards were not going to be met. But I was underwhelmed with the movie. Mirana touched on one of the main reasons.

Also...
Bean wasn't even in Enders launch group in the book...

[lecompte]

I'm also seconding Mirana's report.

I've read the book seventeen times (not kidding) because every time I recommend it to someone, I end up reading it. I have 80 dollars of credit at my local used book store and every time I go in, I get every copy of Ender's Game and share them with anyone who maybe interested.

In the movie, my primary points of contention, except for the absolute lack of character development, revolved around Ender's age (he was 9 at the end of the book, and six at the beginning), the stupid stab at a budding relationship between he and Petra (bleh), and, for some reason, the removal of the part where the Indian/middle eastern kid kisses him. If they really wanted to fuck with Card's anti-gay agenda, that would have been the way to do it.

Not really a big deal to me but things that got missed: Bean's brilliance wasn't highlighted. He was more intelligent than Ender without the ability to empathize as strongly. How Peter went on to become something great for earth which makes him a complicated character. Ender's placement in another team entirely. He didn't go straight to Salamander. There wasn't a battle bridge type thing in the book, they all sat in the these little pod simulators....

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Lols Umad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly my point. Old man nerds mad they cut out the internet message board drama from movie. Lol.

pretty much, you got to cut some nerd shit to make the movie flow/interesting/not some kind of stupid prophetic documentary on science shit that didnt happen 20 yeara go.

[stormlord]

I got a taste of all this when the Lord of the Rings movies were made several years ago. I had already read the series written by Tolkien, so none of the movies surprised me. However, I didn't enjoy the movies, either. I'm an avid reader and I think books just go into the details more and that's what I enjoy. It's just hard to squish it all into 2 hours. Movies are nice on occasion, but I think I prefer to read and watch different plots rather than the same ones. Knowing how Lord of the Rings would end didn't help me enjoy the movie. And if I had watched the movie before reading the books then the same thing would happen if I read them after. Still, if I HAD to choose between reading it first or watching it first I think I'd watch it first because at least when you read it later more details will come out rather than less. Then again, I still think it's playing with fire.

It's not so much that you can't squish a lot into 2 hours of movie, it's that the human mind can't absorb it all in 2 hours. The best movies have to be watched more than once and/or you have to contemplate them afterwards. This is at least how my mind works. I need time to absorb things. When I'm reading a book I don't read it all at once. I might read an hour in a day. I'm also a slow reader. So for some matter of days I'll be thinking about a scene or a character in the book and I get a lot of opportunity to swim around in it.