Heres your proof Sloan - Page 15

Tanthallas · #**141** 10-25-2013, 11:00 PM

You can have the last word, sport.

kotton05 · #**142** 10-25-2013, 11:11 PM

Sell a hard drive for fraps for therapy.

radditsu · #**143** 10-25-2013, 11:32 PM

Tanthallas · #**144** 10-25-2013, 11:44 PM

Hi beautiful

Chanto · #**145** 10-26-2013, 01:22 AM

Well being as i Necrious held the money i guess i should share my opinion for what its worth and warning i am not good putting my thoughts into few words =P

If this was ran strict by the rules like how botb rules are, as to say you must follow the rules or lose no arguments (example:stepping off pad in arena) , Sericx could have certainly argued(and did) that you DQ'd early. And any rule being put in place IMO should be followed or whats the point?

Sericx was clear that if you or I agrod anything near them that we would be DQ and lose the money, this is a rule that we both agreed to even though i suggested we stay at the zone in. Not only did you agro stuff around both of them but hokushin and heallun also left the zone in when they were not supposed to but no one really said anything about that just mentioning you guys were being dumb and asking for it.

Right there when you agrod that stuff around them you guys were DQ but argued that it could not have effected them.How do you know whats going on in his mind at that time? Maybe it would not have effected you or something but you are not him and you were not in the situation he was.If he felt it did effect him and what he was doing you cant really say for certain otherwise. Sloan sericx and xerxes were all very close within range of training each other when it happened so its possible that you interfered with something he was trying to do. Your whole argument was based on something you could not possible even know.

Sericx did stop and call the DQ. Sloan xerexes and heallun all argued and would not accept it even saying Sloan had a fraps that shows he did not effect anything witch turned out to be a lie. I didnt agree to a damn thing about it being fine and saying it was no foul it was just very clear you were not going to pay for it.

You guys really had no good reason to argue other then not wanting to lose, it was clear that sloan did in fact do exactly what the rule said not to but you guys argued anyway and refused to pay for it. The rule said not to agro shit around them not that not to agro shit around them and then the guy who agrod has to agree that he messed you up lol.

With you guys arguing and refusing to pay only real option sericx had was to try and keep playing if he wanted his money weather he felt he had already won or not that did not not matter. And i can see why he would not want to honor the agreement when you just minutes before did not honor yours its pretty obvious.

The only reason i offered to pay was because i should have been more responsible holding the money, i seen you guys were not taking the rules seriously and i knew that would lead to some trouble. I should have told you guys i am not holding it when i seen what was happening but i did not so i just said i would back the bet because it wasnt a big deal and would have been worth it to just settle it. If sericx stopped at the DQ and you guys didnt pay i would have paid for you Just as much as i offered to pay for sericx.

TLDR: Sloan should have paid when he died on top of sericx and xerxes from the start it was clearly understood by both of us that would cause a DQ, Its clear from the screenshots that was the rule and you guys were just telling him to shut up when he was saying it. It is not his fault you did not take the rule seriously and carelessly went out and broke it and you should have paid for it like a man instead of arguing I can promise you that if i had done what you did i would not have hesitated to pay up. And its just my opinion that sense Sericx did not call it there(probally should have when rules were being loosley inforced) and continued he should have ended up paying you for the kill afterward or he should have quit at the DQ. but i cant really blame him for not wanting to. Only reason I offered to pay Sloan was because i should have took more control over how dumb people were being before it even all started and decided i would back the bet for whoever lost if they refused to pay. You guys both lost and both refused to pay...everyone acted like a bitch this day over a small bet!

Alarti0001 · #**146** 10-26-2013, 01:35 AM

100k is a small bet..... Necrious is Scrooge McDuck confirmed... I will be interested in seeing the responses to necrious' post.

Godefroi · #**147** 10-26-2013, 02:49 AM

so sloan died watching, Sericx carried on nonetheless, then gets killed, then argues there was a DQ?

lol ok, I guess whats to remember is Sericx got killed by Xerxes, way to QQ though, good thread !!!

Estolcles · #**148** 10-26-2013, 03:05 AM

I still don't get the convoluted point of whatever the contest was in the first place.

It's like TNA's booking by Vince Russo.

Tanthallas · #**149** 10-26-2013, 03:10 AM

Sericx was insistent that you went to observe necrious; hence i was insistent that there should be a FE and TMO observer. Either one of us could have been feared like that; it just happened to be myself. Staying completely away from the fight does not allow for any observation and makes our presence out there completely moot. Hence after that we both agreed to just go to the zone in and not even bother observing.

My 'interference' did not cause the death of anyone or jeopardize anyones position - Sericx was screaming that I aggroed hoshkar before this as well, so it was automatic DQ, when we both know that I am not KOS to hoshkar and did nothing of the sort. Myself and you, necrious, agreed to move to the zone in and i said many times in OOC that the games would continue - that if you had any objection to that you could voice it up at that moment. Not only did you not object, as the point of this competition was a fight between Xerxes and Sericx and not the extent to which one could DQ the other, but you and me continued on to put in firmer rules on the extent to which people could /q to wipe agro, etc.

Now - if Sericx would have been adamant about calling the thing off and about us paying for the disruption that this apparent DQ caused it would have been one thing. Instead, he continued on after we both made clear that we expected everything to proceed as normal. I am not sure how he expected either you or anyone else to 'observe' in this instance if he was not opening the potential for something like this to happen. I would have gladly stayed at zone in with you if you had stayed there as well.

This post is not in the spirit that you were discussing this with me Necrious - I understand that you want to defend your guildmember, but we both know that as far as the bet was concerned, a 1v1 vs any FE or IB member in VP, Sericx lost. Holding onto a technicality is bad sportsmanship; especially one that had nothing to do with his eventual demise at Xerxes hand.

Tanthallas · #**150** 10-26-2013, 03:19 AM

I would add that I got feared from a wurm that was not aggroed by me and died before that wurm even put out a second fear. Neither of the monks was affected by it whatsoever - both had aggro on the wurms beforehand and would have been attacked instead of me in the case that they were thrown out of FD by this - it is obvious that both were FD, causing the wurms to aggro myself. The wurms did not change positions, as i was feared directly into them and more or less one shot by the 3 of them.

If the rules state that there are to be observers, and the rules also do not allow for the fact that an observer could potentially be thrown into the mix like this - even with 250 MR - then it is clear the rules are nonsense. This is why we mutually decided to move to the zone in after this occurred and just not observe. Once again - the point was to establish the fairest possible fight between the two; to the extent that we could make this possible by changing how we were interacting, we did.