How many World Class Azrael do you know?

[Humerox]

Bah. Enough new people are starting that there will be a third option in the not-too-distant future.

[Blizze]

HECK is the next uber guild. Hide yo kids.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Lightatom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhh.... yeah... did I not mention I just started pal? Why would I have a veteran forum account if I just started? Does that make any sense to you Slathar? I would feel bad for you or anyone else if not.. I am no alt.... I am not a troll...AND for the record my druids name is Skeji and he is my main character.

The only reason I posted as Lightatom is because that was the 1st character I made here about a month ago until I realized leveling without SoW is not as fun as I remembered!

I made this post to bring to Lite(no pun intended [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ) just 1 individual concern about somebody from Azrael that may or hell, may not be hurting thier reputation. If hes gonna say that I am KOS to Azrael as a whole then I would like all of them to know exactly wtf is going on and why. I honestly didnt expect such a good bit of opinions and much appreciate all of the feedback good or bad, flame or fame.

didnt read this one either

dont care

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bah. Enough new people are starting that there will be a third option in the not-too-distant future.

Here is to hoping...

Maybe once they give a target date for teams and also a target date for the server merge people will start putting in effort now for a payoff on that server. Even if it's 12-14 months down the road from now plenty of people will see the long term benefit.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get Azrael has talent and they can put together some small teams that are great at PvP. They have some big box names, etc.

The issue is Azrael thinks on a linear level while Nizzar is making long term plans. People made fun of the whole Nizzar putting a muzzle on players but guild appearance obviously makes a huge difference, look at the OP. You may have some good players that can get more done in 5 hours than someone else does in 10 hours of game play, but this dip shit Gangbang may have just lost you new blood that is willing to put in 30 hours a week for your guilds benefit.

I saw four new players last night in field of bone, that is one starting area, with players that have never played on this server. Fizban was talking on /ooc from LoZ, someone that knows PvP and is already in his 30's. These guys might have 2-3 experiences with each end game guild before they make the decision of what guild to join. Does Azrael make it a concern of theirs to make sure their members act right? It doesn't take much, just educate your members a little on how to win and what helps the guild.

Jew bag HB knows that the earlier you buy someone the cheaper they are. He makes jewelry for free once a week for newbies, or at least he used to. Now some of these noobs are farming VP so he can deck his chars out.

Who do you buy? Smedy who wants a fungi tunic and only plays Euro time, or someone no one has heard of that is leveling up in their 30's and plays 5 hours a day for a small fee of a couple MR bracers.

Yep, exactly what I'm talking about. You can't afford to act elitist when you aren't elite. Nihilum has their share of people who talk non stop in OOC too, but they tend to be of the weird/spammy chat variety and not so much shit talking. It doesn't help when members have post after post in here of how much of a hard ass you have to be to join. Let's be honest, any guild with even the lowest level of aspirations here would take any warm body with a 52+ character. Beggars can't be choosers. Your high horse is actually a blind donkey with whatever the donkey equivalent of downs syndrome is. Get off it.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is to hoping...

Maybe once they give a target date for teams and also a target date for the server merge people will start putting in effort now for a payoff on that server. Even if it's 12-14 months down the road from now plenty of people will see the long term benefit.

The problem has always been it's Nihi VS everyone else. The names have changed along the way...Holocaust, Force, Founding Fathers and so on. The staying power of the "resistance" is what's been weak in the long run.

A single guild getting most content and therefore PvP power is untenable. Most of the opposing forces aren't interested in gear and it's just PvP. The problem is you can't really contest if you're undergeared vs the opponents. That needs to change if Nihi is going to be broken.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem has always been it's Nihi VS everyone else. The names have changed along the way...Holocaust, Force, Founding Fathers and so on. The staying power of the "resistance" is what's been weak in the long run.

Wasn't around for any of those other guilds, so I have no insight as to why they failed. I imagine many of the same reasons as the current resistance.

[Bamz4l]

holy fuck which one of these is the new arzak

[Recycled Children]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bah. Enough new people are starting that there will be a third option in the not-too-distant future.

<Charles Bronson>
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your third option.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasn't around for any of those other guilds, so I have no insight as to why they failed. I imagine many of the same reasons as the current resistance.

The failure was that you have to play the blue game to win on red. Strong raid leaders and a cohesive force. The only guild that's been consistent in those departments has been Nihi.