Velious plz

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The development teams that work on Velious vs. PvP server are completely separate.

Because one is being worked on does not mean the other is being neglected as a result. Stop being idiots.

Oh come on [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swish, can you believe that I apparently trolled people?

[NegaStoat]

I still don't understand the point of a new Teams pvp server when it was announced that it would run along side of the existing red server for 8-10 months, then the server populations would be merged into a single server. I'm talking about the Livestream weeks back explaining their goals - I'm unaware if that plan was reconsidered.

If it hasn't been (haven't heard any word that it was), what is the fucking point of rolling on a fresh server if it's doomed to be merged with the cesspool situation of the existing red server?

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Development of PvP Teams has no effect on the development of Velious.

I mean, they can say that but I'm not going to believe it. Projects just don't work that way.

[fadetree]

I personally think EQ PvP sucks, too. I mean, teams may be better but its like saying fresh buttcheese is 'better' than old buttcheese.

But moanin and groanin about Velious is not going to do anything except start..well..threads like this I guess.

[indiscriminate_hater]

i've always had fun with pvp in eq. and yes, of course its imbalanced and the mechanics are lousy and its mostly impractical.

i think the point you guys are missing is that this isn't about what you or even the majority of the players want. it's about what the developers want to do. the former may have some influence on the latter, but even if it does, do you think threads like this, full of terrible arguments and entitled demands, will sway their decisions?

[fadetree]

Well, this thread isn't about actually getting the developers to change their minds, its about COMPLAININATING, so there.

[Vidar]

Originally Posted by imprint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PVP in Everquest is horrible. It does not matter if it is in a teams environment or not. This game was designed for PvE. The PVP is complete shit and nothing will ever change that.

This guy is on the right track. I love eq but the pvp is not so great. That is why the pvp server didnt do so hot. Blame it on the bugs or glitches all you want.

You know how on blue there are a few top guild running the show. When that happens on a pvp server it ruins it. One group of players will choose Whatever team, Level up fast as hell. They will already have a raid group ready for when they are high enough to raid. At that point they will raid and get better gear than 90% of the population. And since they are power players they out lvl 90% of the population. So now they are the among the few. Best geared and highest lvls with a pvp group at the ready to raid defend what they want. Anyone who wants to compete will HAVE to have this. Most people will not have this. SO at this point this group of 'I live on this game" people will run the show. After they have leveled up they will start leveling alts to raid lower level zones. I assume the level cap on pvp will be in effect. So you gear out a group of 35's and raid the lower level places with them etc etc you see where all this is going. The new server will be run by these types of people.

Edit: just because this group of power players all have to choose races that are on the same team doesnt changed much. Eventually they will have maxed toons on all teams so they can kill/raid who/what/when they want.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Vidar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh i read it. So what im getting is that there are people working on p99 stuff and its not velious? I dont give a damn who they are or what they are working on. PUT ALL AVAILABLE MAN POWER ON VELIOUS! To hell with the pvp server. We have one...it sucks...the new one will too....

I say take all existing man power out of velious and have classic/kunark fixed to as near as perfection as possible. And then fix pvp. After that then maybe work on velious. Yeah, that's what should happen.

Velious can wait. No rush.

[Atmas]

Usually I see these Velious posts and expect to read them and get nauseated at how pretentious and entitled people come across. This post had some of that with harping about a PvP server. However, one decent point is the balance of the classic aspect versus the delay of Velious. At some point, probably already reached, delaying Velious until it is 100% classic is less classic than releasing it in a less than perfect state. The problem we have today is too high a percentage crammed into the same end content. It makes a bigger impact than removing minor features like make leader. Also releasing Velious doesn't mean fixes have to stop.

Regardless of when Velious comes though, my thanks to the Devs for providing this experience.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you think it won't i would like to hear why.

also, it's not just about the teams. it's a chance to start a new pvp server (hopefully) free of the major bugs and exploits that people were saying plagued the r99 server early on -- problems which, by many accounts, are largely responsible for the current low population.

Yeah instead of one person griefing you and calling you a ***** 50 times it will be the whole team griefing you and calling you a ***** 500 times. Sounds great. Where do I sign up??