WTB dat pvp patch!

[Sektor]

A paladin is very low DPS and this is my first melee class I got serious with I'm doing better and eventually I will be one of those top paly.

[Bazia]

plz for christ's sake have the high sun fix in next patch

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Thrilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well, fixing resists is a indirect buffs as deflux will heal back hopefully partialed dmg for full dmg since u cant partial lifetaps

in addition if my memory serves me correctly on live deflux/ne lifetap would heal the necro back for its full pve dmg as opposed to the partial'd #, here you get back only 66%, that extra 100ish hp from ur lifetap in a heal is p game changing for necros

so on live if deflux did 500dmg pve, it would do say 300 dmg pvp but the necro would still self heal for 500 dmg, the heal part of the lifetap is essentially nerfed here atm.. i could b wrong was awhile ago, but since the first day i picked up the necro class here i felt slightly neutered

No your right the returned heal was 100% even tho the nuke portion was minus close to 33%.

But necro's didn't get life back for taping victims with skins. Pretty much the same thing as enchanter they couldn't theft mobs that didn't have mana. If the tap did no dmg they got no life back. Of course this didn't apply to Vexing or lifetap dot which always bypassed skins like every dot.

I THINK later on they changed it so a necro couldn't tap more life than in pool because I remember necro's used to tap like gnoll pups and get full amount restored and at some point they changed that, just don't remember when.

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lifetap was never coded this way. Whatever damage you do is what you receive as a heal. Try lifetapping someone that's invulnerable or manaskinned, you'll get nothing back.

So yes, Deflux always did 219 dmg in pvp which is why it's an overrated spell (much like Splurt) and why necros are garbage post 50 -- which is classic. Necros sucked balls from 51-60 and were completely absent from pvp servers.

It was always that way on live you didn't get life returned when u tapped someone DA'd or skinned, the dmg portion had to land for life regain portion. I did very well with my necro on rallos, I remember absolutely crushing every druid I ever fought.

[karsten]

pvp patch helps everyone that matters

[Bazia]

make it classic

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

make it classic

Great in theory but won't work out really, because on live you couldn't farm air or VP with the tiny crews who have been farming the shit out of it here.

So the gear is out there in large numbers but primarily held by one faction and the people that don't have it are gonna really feel that gear disadvantage now.

This shit should have been in effect day one changing resist code now could have devastating effects on the server, it should really come with a wipe.

The bugs like highsun and brusco landing on 170 mr targets and lasting 14 secs sure that's insane but resist coding could work out very very bad.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No your right the returned heal was 100% even tho the nuke portion was minus close to 33%.

But necro's didn't get life back for taping victims with skins. Pretty much the same thing as enchanter they couldn't theft mobs that didn't have mana. If the tap did no dmg they got no life back. Of course this didn't apply to Vexing or lifetap dot which always bypassed skins like every dot.

I THINK later on they changed it so a necro couldn't tap more life than in pool because I remember necro's used to tap like gnoll pups and get full amount restored and at some point they changed that, just don't remember when.



It was always that way on live you didn't get life returned when u tapped someone DA'd or skinned, the dmg portion had to land for life regain portion. I did very well with my necro on rallos, I remember absolutely crushing every druid I ever fought.

Lifetaps did 66% dmg and healed for 66% health. It was always this way. Vexing didn't have this problem because Vexing is 2 spell components, a debuff on the target and a buff on the caster. The coding didn't reflect the dmg nerf on the buff.

Also I'm glad you beat up some newbie druids post 50, but Necros were not good in pvp post 50.

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lifetaps did 66% dmg and healed for 66% health. It was always this way. Vexing didn't have this problem because Vexing is 2 spell components, a debuff on the target and a buff on the caster. The coding didn't reflect the dmg nerf on the buff.

Also I'm glad you beat up some newbie druids post 50, but Necros were not good in pvp post 50.

NOPE maybe if you actually played on live you'd know this but Thrilla said it correctly.

Lifetap portion always healed full amount! And vexing suffered the same dmg nerf every dot did.

Seriously how old are you? prolly like 25 or younger claiming you played on live! lol

[Bazia]

make it classic

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NOPE maybe if you actually played on live you'd know this but Thrilla said it correctly.

Lifetap portion always healed full amount! And vexing suffered the same dmg nerf every dot did.

Seriously how old are you? prolly like 25 or younger claiming you played on live! lol

Played a necro since the first day on Vallon Zek. You and Thrilla are completely wrong. Please go find a screenshot of Deflux healing for 330 in pvp. You can't because it never happened.

Also I didn't talk about Vexing's damage component, just the healing buff.