No problem with you bards until tonight, what you guys should understand.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think everyone on this forum should be forced to name their ingame accounts

Lol, if only. Dont worry, Buma can't be that hard to identify in-game (if he just doesnt want to name his character now that is.) Just AoE kite on your bard and look for the entitled rager who pops his head up into /shout.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see you using the word entitlement often. Using that word because it's on the social forefronts of the internet isn't making you look any smarter. You took a word that you thought had strong meaning when it only applies to conceptual politics. I hate to stress to you the vagueness of your posts but I think I am done here.

I bet you tried real hard to write this, and so I don't want to be too critical, but seriously, you don't have the chops to play Mr. Articulate Poster. It's always embarrassing when individuals with poor to mediocre vocabulary and writing skills, try to act all egghead-y. It's like a fat chick in yoga pants: it don't work.

WTF is "conceptual politics"?

[SCB]

My god it was easy to change the direction of this thread.

Remember back when it was about bards? lol

[kenzar]

It was never about bards as much as it was about Buma's sense of entitlement to his zones, his way. It just took this long before anyone else noticed. Honestly I've never read a more entitled point of view about how EQ "should"(lol) be played in all my days. How entitled can you get? LOL then he comes back in here trying to say he isnt entitled, but he does it with such a smug entitled manner that he comes off twice as entitled as he did before. entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entit led.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.e ntitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitl ed.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you can easily ruin a bard's day by rooting 2-3 mobs towards the end of their kite without them knowing about it. 3-4 rooted mobs is pretty much assured a death for them. After you root said mobs, just zone out to clear aggro. Rooting isn't Ksing.

Not to derail the thread, but rooting mobs doesn't even touch an AoE kiting Bard. All that will happen is he/she finishes up the main group and then comes back and DoT's the rooted mobs down with impunity. If they break and come back at him/her, they join the existing swarm, or it's back to kiting. Mind you, I do kite in 3rd person mode so I will see any returning mobs well before they get to me and can just funnel them into my existing swarm (as happened several times when other Bard kites returned when the Bard died). You could get lucky and have one of the returning mobs manage to land a hit and stun the Bard. That wouldn't be usual though. Bards are used to picking up unplanned adds and adjusting constantly. Decent Bards rarely stop running at full speed. There is nothing in the game outside of lag that can touch them.

SoW is equally useless - the Bard simply snares the SoWed mob, and gets back to business. I kite at full speed (twisting Selos with a drum instead of relying on JBoots only) to cover these exact instances. The only thing that will undo a Bard is casting mobs.

Fear bombing however...

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to derail the thread, but rooting mobs doesn't even touch an AoE kiting Bard. All that will happen is he/she finishes up the main group and then comes back and DoT's the rooted mobs down with impunity. If they break and come back at him/her, they join the existing swarm, or it's back to kiting. Mind you, I do kite in 3rd person mode so I will see any returning mobs well before they get to me and can just funnel them into my existing swarm (as happened several times when other Bard kites returned when the Bard died). You could get lucky and have one of the returning mobs manage to land a hit and stun the Bard. That wouldn't be usual though. Bards are used to picking up unplanned adds and adjusting constantly. Decent Bards rarely stop running at full speed. There is nothing in the game outside of lag that can touch them.

SoW is equally useless - the Bard simply snares the SoWed mob, and gets back to business. I kite at full speed (twisting Selos with a drum instead of relying on JBoots only) to cover these exact instances. The only thing that will undo a Bard is casting mobs.

Fear bombing however...

Unsure, but I think I said to root multiple mobs. The root wouldnt be a high level root so it wouldnt be lasting very long and it would be as the bard is within 15-20seconds back to his kiting spot. More than a few bards on the server drop their clip plane, I found it impossible not to with a large kite behind me. You can drop a few unexpected AoE's or even buff the bard right as he is coming in for the dot pass. Believe, when your unexpecting it, it kicks you. Bonds of force wouldnt be bad to use either. I'm not sure in your experience how many mobs you were kiting but I can assure ya that I kited with each kite no less than 150+mobs in OT while there really isnt really much more than 150 unless you're pulling the sarnak casters.

[Trouble]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was never about bards as much as it was about Buma's sense of entitlement to his zones, his way. It just took this long before anyone else noticed. Honestly I've never read a more entitled point of view about how EQ "should"(lol) be played in all my days. How entitled can you get? LOL then he comes back in here trying to say he isnt entitled, but he does it with such a smug entitled manner that he comes off twice as entitled as he did before. entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entit led.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.e ntitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitl ed.entitled.entitled.entitled.entitled.

I rather liked the part where he circled all the areas where mobs spawn that give exp from 30-51. Those were good times. Good thing he decided to let bards have level 18 mobs and barren areas.

[Wudan]

Op confirmed moran. So anoying....gtfo

[Unidus]

Simple solution would be just to ban any Bard who is seen doing it. Play the game like it was meant to be played, in a group.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Unidus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simple solution would be just to ban any Bard who is seen doing it. Play the game like it was meant to be played, in a group.

Just change all bards to clerics, everyone likes clerics right?

You know I was playing Chivalry last night and it occurred to me how hilarious it would be to implement something they have there. If you're trying to chase someone down and murder them if their back is to you then you slowly gain speed. What is those pussy sarnaks did that? Watching an AOEing bard slowing consumed by a mass of 180 mobs would be fun to watch.

Side note, Chivalry is a pretty awesome game. If anyone wants to get beheaded by my billhook I usually hang on Moot's FFA server when I play.