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Old 09-25-2013, 01:12 PM
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I'm not going to say I disagree with you, but the bard at least has a reason to be in OT: massive XP. Most other classes don't.
Yeah because a Necro would never want to fear kite there, and druids wouldn't want to quad there, neither would a wizard. A monk would definitely has no business fear kiting there either, and obviously we can't have shamans, enchanters, mages soloing in OT. You definitely wouldn't want like half the classes in the game to have a relatively safe and easy zone to get solo exp in.
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Old 09-25-2013, 01:47 PM
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Yeah because a Necro would never want to fear kite there, and druids wouldn't want to quad there, neither would a wizard. A monk would definitely has no business fear kiting there either, and obviously we can't have shamans, enchanters, mages soloing in OT. You definitely wouldn't want like half the classes in the game to have a relatively safe and easy zone to get solo exp in.
Every one of those classes you mentioned can get comparable XP by either grouping or soloing in another zone: necros by charming in Unrest or Lower Guk, Druids/Wizards by quadding in FV or DL, Enchanters by charming wherever the fuck the want, etc. Bards get 10x the XP of grouping by soloing in OT and only OT, because the other Kunark outdoor zones have either fewer mobs, more casters, or mobs with huge hitboxes.

Please google the Dunning-Kruger effect and then stop posting.
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Old 09-25-2013, 02:19 PM
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Every one of those classes you mentioned can get comparable XP by either grouping or soloing in another zone: necros by charming in Unrest or Lower Guk, Druids/Wizards by quadding in FV or DL, Enchanters by charming wherever the fuck the want, etc. Bards get 10x the XP of grouping by soloing in OT and only OT, because the other Kunark outdoor zones have either fewer mobs, more casters, or mobs with huge hitboxes.

Please google the Dunning-Kruger effect and then stop posting.
So they don't belong there because there are "better" places for them to go? People can play wherever the hell they want. You aren't entitled to behave like a douche and cause problems for others because you made up some rules about how everyone else should be playing.

Google autism spectrum, find out where you place on it, then stop posting.
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Old 09-25-2013, 02:32 PM
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After reading most of these threads, I've walked away with the following conclusion.

People who advocate that at a certain point in a Bard's career, it is better to solo through swarm kiting than group feel that they are entitled to certain zones that support this.

Fair enough - let's break down the qualities of such zones.

1) Outdoors, 2) A normal (or fast) respawn of mobs, 3) An overwhelming majority of non-caster mobs, 4) Vendors and/or a bank nearby, 5) Be somewhat close to a player established Teleport hawking meeting site.

Now, for the casual player who does not run with a set group of friends for experience leveling, what would their safest choice be in selecting a gathering place for a pick up group?

ALL OF THE FUCKING ABOVE.

go peddle your "you should be in a dungeon" bullshit somewhere else.
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:02 PM
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So they don't belong there because there are "better" places for them to go? People can play wherever the hell they want. You aren't entitled to behave like a douche and cause problems for others because you made up some rules about how everyone else should be playing.

Google autism spectrum, find out where you place on it, then stop posting.
It seems that Dunning-Kruger remark hit a nerve. I'm not sure whether your inability to think up original comebacks stems from your boiling rage, your pitiful lack of reading comprehension, or, even autism: many autistic children are vulnerable to outbursts of rage.

Anyway, back on topic, in my original post I stated that bards had a compelling reason to go to OT and other classes do not. It's not that they cannot function in OT, but rather that they have options the bard does not. You have responded with entitled sarcastic rage which you have confused for a logical argument. It is this confusion which makes you a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:13 PM
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It seems that Dunning-Kruger remark hit a nerve. I'm not sure whether your inability to think up original comebacks stems from your boiling rage, your pitiful lack of reading comprehension, or, even autism: many autistic children are vulnerable to outbursts of rage.

Anyway, back on topic, in my original post I stated that bards had a compelling reason to go to OT and other classes do not. It's not that they cannot function in OT, but rather that they have options the bard does not. You have responded with entitled sarcastic rage which you have confused for a logical argument. It is this confusion which makes you a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Your desperate attempts to assert your internet alpha male status are just painful to read, but you are really making me lol right now so thanks.
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Your desperate attempts to assert your internet alpha male status are just painful to read, but you are really making me lol right now so thanks.
Wow such burn. Next you'll be telling me my jimmies are rustled.
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:32 PM
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Wow such burn. Next you'll be telling me my jimmies are rustled.
Better luck next time!
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It's not that they cannot function in OT, but rather that they have options the bard does not.
I don't really give a crap either way, but this actually might be the dumbest thing I've read all day.
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