No problem with you bards until tonight, what you guys should understand.

[Buma]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a few seconds of work every 30min while I chugged out work/school related things is a waste of time? I'd rather solo a camp for a 10sec/1hr than constantly kill in a duo at freeti/fungi.

Honestly, netting ~40k a day for the actual time invested of minutes is pretty lucrative.

I call BS making 40k a day at AC.

Originally Posted by susvain0362 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lolwhat? I went from 20-48 leveling everyday as a rogue and a paladin in DUNGEON groups only. Its this really hard concept called START YOUR OWN GROUP. I did uguk, MM, Highkeep, Unrest, (some FM giant) CoM and SolB. Everyday im in a great spot in a dungeon. Its the only way to level. Id quit the game if i was joining groups in outdoor zones like in OT.

Its very difficult. Here are the hard steps.

1. Zone into solb and ask camp check
2. Notice either royals or bugs or window is open. ALWAYS one or two of those camps open.
3. /who (x-class) 44 48
4. /tell (x-player) wanna join a solb royals group?
5. Repeat with the classes you want.
6. Usually you can have a full group or atleast 4 people to start clearing with in 5 to 6mins.

Very hard for bad players like the OP. People hangin around in EC are always down to join groups especially in good spots in dungeons. Most people wont do this, theyd rather spend 3hours on a stupid thread like this. If its not unrest house, uguk scryer or warden, mistmoore pond/gy/castle, or highkeep goblins or COM or solb, i wouldnt bother exping.


TLDR OP is very bad. I would say lazy but he made this post when he could of had a full group at mistmoore castle already.

You must be one of many hater bard accounts on this thread trying to hate on my thread. First of all good try explaining how to play a 14 year old fucking game to a Veteran player who probably knows more than you will ever know about the game, and second if you had any reading comprehension you would of not wrote what you did because this thread wasn't a QQ thread about bards but a thread about the shear amount of disrespectful bards their are out there against other players. I had said after all the BS and seeing other players in shouts about the bards that night I decided to make this thread to get an idea from other bards about the process. Where am I attacking bards? I said I had no issue with them kiting mass amounts, the issue was the blatent disrespect and not caring of other players. LEARN TO READ!

Originally Posted by susvain0362 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This server is so stupid easy to find a dungeon group. There are ALWAYS open camps. ALWAYS. How long does it take to do a /who warrior in your level range, then cleric, then ench, then fill out the rest of your group.mmost players are just waiting for that tell to join a group.

I would never of made it to level 30 only doing shitty exp zones like OT. Dungeons are way funner, not even talking about the exp.

I am well capable of forming a group and faster than most classes. I am nearing 50 and have done all my leveling in dungeons mostly before and have done MM and the other shit. I also was quit pleased to run into OT exp as it was not as bad as everyone else has said and had a low death rate if I had to solo some days because of time, plus a bank is handy being close for quick sales. So preach to the quire little guy, it doesn't make you look anymore like an ass in this thread as you have reached maximum skill level at being an ass, 250 of 250 ass skill.

Originally Posted by susvain0362 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does anyone else wanna punch OP in the head?

Again how is that skill in ass treating you? You know the quiet guy you never mess with? Picture me as that guy, wonder why nobody ever messes with the quiet guy and they never lash out and talk all kinds of smack? We know we can back up anything we say, we don't need to hide behind a computer screen.

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe before the invis nerf, but now it's a lot more than 2 mobs/hr and not a very easy duo. I'd rather take my few seconds/hr and not have to roll against anyone WHILE i make my RL money at work than have to worry about if my duo partner is online, finding a rep if he isnt, possible wiping, etc. Sro AC is hands down best plat/hr solo camp in the long run.



7k/ring. And it does not take anywhere near 8hrs/ring at the end of the week. Somedays i might get 2 rings, others I get 10. It all averages out to right under 40k a day by the end of the week, sometimes more, sometimes less it all depends on how many days/week I'm able to snag the camp.

I call BS 40k a day. Let us see, show some proof. How can you get 10 rings a day in a 24 hr period? You yourself said you didn't camp it that often, if you got 10 rings it means AC pops often enough anyone could see it or get it. Average camp time is 8hrs for someone getting it from what I heard on P99, which equates to 2 max rings day you can earn because you factor in sleep you don't have full 24hrs, even if you did that be minimum 3 rings. Lets say you did get 3 rings a day, 3*7 is 21 rings and only 147k plat a week not even 40k a day like you claim but 21k a day max if you were a robot.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I call BS 40k a day. Let us see, show some proof. How can you get 10 rings a day in a 24 hr period? You yourself said you didn't camp it that often, if you got 10 rings it means AC pops often enough anyone could see it or get it. Average camp time is 8hrs for someone getting it from what I heard on P99, which equates to 2 max rings day you can earn because you factor in sleep you don't have full 24hrs, even if you did that be minimum 3 rings. Lets say you did get 3 rings a day, 3*7 is 21 rings and only 147k plat a week not even 40k a day like you claim but 21k a day max if you were a robot.

First off, when did I say I didnt camp it that often? I said I monopolized it. Read harder.

Do I really need to explain how a rng works? (besides your statistics are all made up lol. AC has 10% chance per spawn, at 2 spawns per hour gives 20%/hr) Anyone who has seen my corpse pile or anyone who has tried to camp AC to find me sitting there for hours and hours a day, every day can back me up. There is a reason I'm the leader of the JIT and why I was able to inflate the price of jboots solo in such a short amount of time. A lack of supply (IE me hording rings over the course of a week and dumping them only on the weekend) drives the price up. I'm not sure what you want as "proof", a screenshot of my bank?

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Did you really think people perma-camped AC for MQing when it wasn't good plat?

[Buma]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off, when did I say I didnt camp it that often? I said I monopolized it. Read harder.

Do I really need to explain how a rng works? (besides your statistics are all made up lol. AC has 10% chance per spawn, at 2 spawns per hour gives 20%/hr) Anyone who has seen my corpse pile or anyone who has tried to camp AC to find me sitting there for hours and hours a day, every day can back me up. There is a reason I'm the leader of the JIT and why I was able to inflate the price of jboots solo in such a short amount of time. A lack of supply (IE me hording rings over the course of a week and dumping them only on the weekend) drives the price up. I'm not sure what you want as "proof", a screenshot of my bank?

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Did you really think people perma-camped AC for MQing when it wasn't good plat?

I wonder how the GM's on this server think about EXPLOITING the code to get an unfair advantage over other players. As a guide years ago on Live I can tell you with 100% confidence that the higher ups would be cussing a storm and you would of been banned. We had senior GM's who regularly were pissed off at people like you that exploited, yes you got banned but the guides also got to hear their rants.

You already admitted to exploiting the code here. Can we get a GM to confirm if this exploit is bannable? The exploit is camping AC gaining a ring then dying so you can corpse the ring and keep getting more and more rings on multiple corpses. The code doesn't allow you to gain more than one LORE item at a time, thereby you exploit the code by bypassing this with corpse holding many rings. A GM definitely needs to look at this and the Devs. Because it's not something other players would intentionally do to get a fair edge over everyone else to inflate MQ for j-boots and MQ for plat.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder how the GM's on this server think about EXPLOITING the code to get an unfair advantage over other players. As a guide years ago on Live I can tell you with 100% confidence that the higher ups would be cussing a storm and you would of been banned. We had senior GM's who regularly were pissed off at people like you that exploited, yes you got banned but the guides also got to hear their rants.

You already admitted to exploiting the code here. Can we get a GM to confirm if this exploit is bannable? The exploit is camping AC gaining a ring then dying so you can corpse the ring and keep getting more and more rings on multiple corpses. The code doesn't allow you to gain more than one LORE item at a time, thereby you exploit the code by bypassing this with corpse holding many rings. A GM definitely needs to look at this and the Devs. Because it's not something other players would intentionally do to get a fair edge over everyone else to inflate MQ for j-boots and MQ for plat.

Wow, you dont read very well. I already stated that my methods have been scrutinized by Rogen when he thought i was duping AC rings when he noticed i was MQing something like 15 rings a day for a couple days. He found everything to be legit. Recently I explained my entire method to Derubael and all he had to say was how clever it was of me( i can post the log of our convvo when i get home iff youd like. )

The entitlement is strong with Buma. Why are u so mad i have more plat than you anyway?

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder how the GM's on this server think about EXPLOITING the code to get an unfair advantage over other players. As a guide years ago on Live I can tell you with 100% confidence that the higher ups would be cussing a storm and you would of been banned. We had senior GM's who regularly were pissed off at people like you that exploited, yes you got banned but the guides also got to hear their rants.

You already admitted to exploiting the code here. Can we get a GM to confirm if this exploit is bannable? The exploit is camping AC gaining a ring then dying so you can corpse the ring and keep getting more and more rings on multiple corpses. The code doesn't allow you to gain more than one LORE item at a time, thereby you exploit the code by bypassing this with corpse holding many rings. A GM definitely needs to look at this and the Devs. Because it's not something other players would intentionally do to get a fair edge over everyone else to inflate MQ for j-boots and MQ for plat.

Here you go Buma, the answer to your "I wonder how the GM's on this server think about EXPLOITING the code to get an unfair advantage over other players." question.

[Sat Sep 14 00:42:09 2013] Derubael tells you, 'Just a quick question'
[Sat Sep 14 00:42:17 2013] You told Derubael, 'Whats up?'
[Sat Sep 14 00:42:20 2013] Derubael tells you, 'To satisfy my curiousity'
[Sat Sep 14 00:43:12 2013] Derubael tells you, 'Just wanted to know how the whole jboots mq business works. How do you get customers, how do you complete the MQ, that kinda thing'
[Sat Sep 14 00:44:06 2013] Derubael tells you, 'I'll brb, but just give me a run down of how it works, from the start where you first advertise the mq, to getting onto another char to complete the mq.'
[Sat Sep 14 00:44:22 2013] You told Derubael, 'ok'
[Sat Sep 14 00:44:45 2013] Derubael tells you, 'And your serets are safe with me, I won't be telling anyone how you make it all work'
[Sat Sep 14 00:44:50 2013] You told Derubael, 'I first make sure Hasten is up, and no pesky monks around aroudn that are looking for bro Z'
[Sat Sep 14 00:45:16 2013] You told Derubael, 'Then after that is secured, I head to EC and auction "WTS JBoot MQ, My ring/rapier and your 3250g. 7k"'
[Sat Sep 14 00:45:28 2013] You told Derubael, 'And then its basically a waiting game until I find a customer'
[Sat Sep 14 00:45:57 2013] You told Derubael, 'After I find a buyer, we meet at the bank or tunnel depending on where his plat is and I take payment and convert plat->gold if need be'
[Sat Sep 14 00:46:09 2013] You told Derubael, 'Then I pay a druid/wiz to port us over and we run to Rathe'
[Sat Sep 14 00:46:37 2013] You told Derubael, 'I tell the person, dont do anything until I give the "OK TO TRADE" tell. then I give hasten a rapier and a ring and give the ok to the buyer'
[Sat Sep 14 00:46:45 2013] You told Derubael, 'who then gives Hasten 3250g and receives his jboots'
[Sat Sep 14 00:47:35 2013] You told Derubael, 'No real secrets. The only thing that is a little tricky is figuring out that a corpses item doesnt count towards the "lore" total'
[Sat Sep 14 00:48:02 2013] You told Derubael, 'So after I get a ring, Ill just message random people in the zone to kill me in a duel for like 50p or something'
[Sat Sep 14 00:48:05 2013] You told Derubael, 'usually a newbie'
[Sat Sep 14 00:48:14 2013] You told Derubael, 'and I cannibalize down low, and let him last hit me'
[Sat Sep 14 00:48:30 2013] You told Derubael, 'loot everything but the ring off my corpse and I'm good for another '
[Sat Sep 14 00:48:46 2013] You told Derubael, 'That's pretty much the whole process'
[Sat Sep 14 00:58:04 2013] Derubael tells you, 'How do you get the rapier?'
[Sat Sep 14 00:58:25 2013] You told Derubael, 'I usually get those during downtimes when someone else was already on camp when I logged in'
[Sat Sep 14 00:58:47 2013] You told Derubael, 'Ill run over to feerrott, and kill shadowed men until I get a rapier then gate back to sro and loot one of my corpses with a ring'
[Sat Sep 14 00:59:00 2013] You told Derubael, 'Then I have the person on camp duel me and leave ring/rapier on corpse'
[Sat Sep 14 00:59:07 2013] You told Derubael, 'rinse and repeat'
[Sat Sep 14 01:00:19 2013] You told Derubael, 'corpses also avoid the 'no-rent' tag'
[Sat Sep 14 01:02:41 2013] Derubael tells you, 'Ok, thanks for satisfying my curiousity. That's very clever of you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]'
[Sat Sep 14 01:02:51 2013] You told Derubael, '[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] thanks'
[Sat Sep 14 01:02:57 2013] You told Derubael, 'No problem at all '

There you have it. I put the relevant messages in bold. I know how reading sometimes confuses and angers you. Anything else you feel entitled to Buma?

[Buma]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here you go Buma, the answer to your "I wonder how the GM's on this server think about EXPLOITING the code to get an unfair advantage over other players." question.



There you have it. I put the relevant messages in bold. I know how reading sometimes confuses and angers you. Anything else you feel entitled to Buma?

Oh please save me the BS, stop using entitled word as if I demanded stuff. You idiots keep making shit up, did I ever demand something be given to me or changed? So no. That GM or server Dev? Doesn't matter anyway as whoever it was left that go which I would have never left it go. Now I know your secrets, going try this myself on mage so if you see me taking your business I will share the camp for 50k a day, otherwise I will be there most the day.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh please save me the BS,stop using entitled word as if I demanded stuff. You idiots keep making shit up, did I ever demand something be given to me or changed? So no. That GM or server Dev? Doesn't matter anyway as whoever it was left that go which I would have never left it go. Now I know your secrets, going try this myself on mage so if you see me taking your business I will share the camp for 50k a day, otherwise I will be there most the day.

Here are just 3 of your entitled statements that I could be bothered to find in 60sec.

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bards do not need to be pulling anything in these areas deemed for normal players.

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The disrespect they give fellow players who are trying to level near the areas that bards shouldn't be pulling from is my motivation for this thread.

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...General camp spots in outdoors have designated pull areas, if you got a named that pops on a hill you got all mobs between you and that hill for your group. It so happens to be true, just a picky bard like yourself seems to think they don't exist.

Also, I just got this. lol

Originally Posted by spoils [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Op confirmed Perun alt

Young mapmaker for sure, but he is no Perun.

So in conclusion: Fight me IRL Buma.

[Trouble]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

preach to the quire

All it took to lose any credibility.