No problem with you bards until tonight, what you guys should understand.

[Wudan]

Im sorry but i have to be honest here. OP is confirmed retard

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I thought you were awarded 9th place Mr Worf? Didn't a klingon use an illegal move and give you a concussion?

Star Trek TNG Episode "Parallels" if anyone is wondering what the fuck I'm on about [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Estu]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes the exp is good here. Other people posting go to dungeon x y z, it's not that easy guys. Dungeon groups are hard to find, they generally are all taken up by the main guilds who are generally camping stuff for profit. You would be lucky to get into a group in places like this for exp and loot if you're outside the box (circle).

What I don't understand is opinions like this, like EQ is suppose to be a LINEAR game, when in fact players tend to do and go where they can easily exp and get groups like OT. I am sorry if it is easy for you other players to get groups in places like solA and solB. Trust me you have no idea how hard it is to get into a exp grp in these places where loot also drops, let alone just a exp group capable of keeping any camp in one these zones if you're not in one the so called top guilds.

I really don't know where this is coming from. The best money camps are in high demand, sure, but there are tons of other places in dungeons that are either open or being camped by random pick-up groups (not monopolized by major raiding guilds in the slightest) and these places often have loot (nothing you're going to get rich off of, but loot nonetheless). If there aren't a bunch of people in the dungeon already, you can do a /who all warrior 25 35, or whatever class and level range you're looking for, find players who want to go to a dungeon with you, and start a group. Literally every EXP group I've ever been in at levels below 50 or so has been made up of random people, maybe two or three from some leveling guild, but never completely made up of members of a single raiding guild.

[Buma]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh wow, I'm sorry bards pulled outside their designated spots...wait, who the fuck are you to tell anyone where they can and cannot pull from again?

WOW aren't you cool. Have you read the thread? My post was constructive criticism, it was intended for actual bards to look at and give a consensus to what is actually or should be their designated pull areas they use. If you (bard) took offense to the thread then I can only hand you some cream for your butt hurt. Again it's why we have forums. I am nobody to tell you where or how to pull, but if you read the thread you would understand that.

Originally Posted by Wudan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im sorry but i have to be honest here. OP is confirmed retard

Yes I am partly retarded from the years of reading posts like yours. The dumbing down of society and the anti social non comprehending people that seem to have monopolized the word retard have little to no effect on me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

words.....I am nobody to tell you where or how to pull....words

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Designated pull areas do not exist in EQ. Compete or die.

[Buma]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Designated pull areas do not exist in EQ. Compete or die.

They certainly do, it may not be written rules but they do exist. Have you played live throughout the years? General camp spots in outdoors have designated pull areas, if you got a named that pops on a hill you got all mobs between you and that hill for your group. It so happens to be true, just a picky bard like yourself seems to think they don't exist.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They certainly do, it may not be written rules but they do exist. Have you played live throughout the years? General camp spots in outdoors have designated pull areas, if you got a named that pops on a hill you got all mobs between you and that hill for your group. It so happens to be true, just a picky bard like yourself seems to think they don't exist.

<not a bard

Show me a rule that designates a pull area for specific classes...hell show me a rule that designates ANY pull area. Are you referring to player made agreements? Fuck those, nothing is sacred not even "general consensus"

This game caters to no one; compete or fail. You aren't going to change the game to suit your needs, so what exactly are you after?

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Claims require evidence. Saying "its different" doesn't mean shit lol. Show us how this is any different than the 50 other bard kiting QQ threads posted over the last 4 years, all about the monopolization of zones and training. Quit with the hyperbole and anecdotes they dont mean anything to anyone with a brain.

Oh no, I'm sorry I've cited the rules of the server. Geez its like I wanted to provide some sort of evidence for my claims...weird.

Finally, if you think anyone will eat a ban or even a suspension(hell even a warning) for this you're dumber than I gave you credit for.

So, earlier in this thread you said because you, personally, have never seen anyone get banned or suspended for training, it doesn't happen. Now, you say anecdotal discussion is meaningless. Which is it, Mr. Consistent?

You have cited rules that don't apply to this situation and are skipping over others that do. Other people have pointed this out to you but you just can't seem to grasp that what you have quoted has nothing to do with zone disruption issues, which is what monopolization of zones, particularly crowded ones, is.

I'm simply saying that in my time on P99, I've never seen the bard aoe situation like this and, particularly, the general attitude of the server towards them quite like this. And I, personally, have a sneaking suspicion that there is going to be a rude awakening for idiots like yourself who are content to continue doing what they have been doing because they play a certain class they have free reign to do whatever they want. You could sell accounts for years here, too....Until a couple of months ago when you couldn't.

You might see it differently and that's fine, but your jumping up and down like a poop flinging monkey doesn't change my opinion, nor will it keep me from discussing it. If that's a problem for you, I guess that's your fucking problem. BTW, you know the easiest way to tell if someone in a discussion is retarded? By the number of times they use any variation of the word "crying" or "QQ."

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, earlier in this thread you said because you, personally, have never seen anyone get banned or suspended for training, it doesn't happen. Now, you say anecdotal discussion is meaningless. Which is it, Mr. Consistent?

You have cited rules that don't apply to this situation and are skipping over others that do. Other people have pointed this out to you but you just can't seem to grasp that what you have quoted has nothing to do with zone disruption issues, which is what monopolization of zones, particularly crowded ones, is.

I'm simply saying that in my time on P99, I've never seen the bard aoe situation like this and, particularly, the general attitude of the server towards them quite like this. And I, personally, have a sneaking suspicion that there is going to be a rude awakening for idiots like yourself who are content to continue doing what they have been doing because they play a certain class they have free reign to do whatever they want. You could sell accounts for years here, too....Until a couple of months ago when you couldn't.

You might see it differently and that's fine, but your jumping up and down like a poop flinging monkey doesn't change my opinion, nor will it keep me from discussing it. If that's a problem for you, I guess that's your fucking problem. BTW, you know the easiest way to tell if someone in a discussion is retarded? By the number of times they use any variation of the word "crying" or "QQ."

which rule did I cite that is not applicable?

"Ive never seen anyone banned or suspended for it" was more to the point that it is unenforced/unable to be enforced. Reading is hard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Weekapaug]

It's already been covered, my friend. I'm not going to go back and pick through everything because you can't read and comprehend. It's right there in what you quoted before. LOL

Hint: Stop reading what you want the rules to say and actually read what they say.