No problem with you bards until tonight, what you guys should understand.

[Trouble]

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Orange = bard pull area

You = somewhere else



JK btw, when people get all whiny and start hollering in OOC and getting the bard hate rolling I don't usually pay 'em much mind, but if you msg me and talk to me like an adult I will leave mobs up for you.

[thieros]

Originally Posted by Trouble [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Orange = bard pull area

You = somewhere else

fish still fair game!

[Dirkus]

Originally Posted by Trouble [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

JK btw, when people get all whiny and start hollering in OOC and getting the bard hate rolling I don't usually pay 'em much mind, but if you msg me and talk to me like an adult I will leave mobs up for you.

This. Talk to us, we usually don't mind sharing.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Calabee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fuck ae kiting

What he said. A few of you Jack Asses are going to just totally ruin it for other Bards.

[Estu]

I'm with Thieros on this one. Never understood people who do EXP groups in outdoor zones like Oasis and Overthere. Why would you do this when you can go to a dungeon and get better loot and better EXP? Not to mention, Kunark mobs have more HP than old world mobs, so it's doubly nonsensical for OT. You're basically choosing the worst possible zone to EXP in and then getting upset that people for whom that zone actually makes sense are using it.

Dungeons are great for standard groups: healer, tank, DPS, and CC. Outdoor zones are great for others: bards, quad kiters, fear kiters, and specialized duos. If people grouping EXPing in outdoor zones just went indoors, they'd benefit from more EXP, better loot, and less competition, whereas the people who actually need those zones for their methods of leveling would benefit from having them open. Win-win.

[ripwind]

XP in Kaesora is insane up to about 45/46. Amazed so few people XP there. Especially since melee can be bound right outside. Some decent drops too, including some "garbage" drops that vendor for good amounts (Tombcarver, Spinepiercer, etc.)

[Thulack]

OT is such crappy XP compared to guk's or HHK or any other dungeon. OT and BW should be bard heaven and are for a reason. And this coming from a person that will never play a bard on p99.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What he said. A few of you Jack Asses are going to just totally ruin it for other Bards.

Some are real asses too when you try to work something out. They really do think they have a right to every mob.

Originally Posted by Estu

I'm with Thieros on this one. Never understood people who do EXP groups in outdoor zones like Oasis and Overthere.

It's somewhat safer. Risk/reward thing.

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm with Thieros on this one. Never understood people who do EXP groups in outdoor zones like Oasis and Overthere. Why would you do this when you can go to a dungeon and get better loot and better EXP? Not to mention, Kunark mobs have more HP than old world mobs, so it's doubly nonsensical for OT. You're basically choosing the worst possible zone to EXP in and then getting upset that people for whom that zone actually makes sense are using it.

Dungeons are great for standard groups: healer, tank, DPS, and CC. Outdoor zones are great for others: bards, quad kiters, fear kiters, and specialized duos. If people grouping EXPing in outdoor zones just went indoors, they'd benefit from more EXP, better loot, and less competition, whereas the people who actually need those zones for their methods of leveling would benefit from having them open. Win-win.

In my experience this has been because the group composition isn't ideal for a dungeon, but is fine for outside. Your group might be able to handle a bunch of single, safe pulls in an outdoor zone but if you are lacking someone to pull or CC efficiently, a dungeon could be more dangerous and a slower-pace.

The truth is people don't like competition when it doesn't work in their favor. If these groups were snagging all the mobs and bards could only manage to find 6 or 7 things for their AoE every 25 minutes...bards would be the ones whining about how unfair it is. You see the same griping when people PL in popular low-level dungeons. But roll into Unrest as a 60 druid and offer someone a 4-hour PL of every mob you can get, and watch them light up with joy. People are fickle, they just want things to go their way. I'm no different, when I sit down to group up with 5 other people I want some xp too. We all just gotta deal, and hope we can rise above our selfish instincts and work together.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by ripwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

XP in Kaesora is insane up to about 45/46. Amazed so few people XP there. Especially since melee can be bound right outside. Some decent drops too, including some "garbage" drops that vendor for good amounts (Tombcarver, Spinepiercer, etc.)

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OT is such crappy XP compared to guk's or HHK or any other dungeon. OT and BW should be bard heaven and are for a reason. And this coming from a person that will never play a bard on p99.