Everqust raids

[Dukat]

Originally Posted by Izzni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean it would be a lot more stupid as everyone trains each other for 3 hours. There's almost no respect between the raiding guilds as it is right now. The rules are the only thing keeping this from devolving into tzvz garbage. And no, we all wouldn't see raid mobs, it would still be just the people willing camp a boss in raid force for hours.

Your lack of faith in your fellow players is depressing to me. There is no respect between the guilds because there's no interaction between them. Why interact when you can just petition and wait and see what the GM says about the situation? If they would just step aside, we'd all realize the necessity of respect and sportsmanlike conduct.

[Gwence]

You guys are dumb as rocks if you think WoW classic raids are harder than EQ classic.

When WoW came out people knew about raiding and what to expect in a general sense.

When EQ came out wayyyyy back in the day, no one knew wtf was going on. How many guilds could break fear at level 50 back in 1999? I dont know the answer but I would wager you could count the number with 1 hand. Same thing goes for Trakanon, AoW etc. Very few guilds were able to handle EQ raid content as it was released.

Dont be fooled into thinking EQ is easier just because of how guilds kill stuff right now, 75% of the people have been there and done that and we still do wipe occasionally.

It's not easy.

[fugazi]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are dumb as rocks if you think WoW classic raids are harder than EQ classic.

When WoW came out people knew about raiding and what to expect in a general sense.

When EQ came out wayyyyy back in the day, no one knew wtf was going on. How many guilds could break fear at level 50 back in 1999? I dont know the answer but I would wager you could count the number with 1 hand. Same thing goes for Trakanon, AoW etc. Very few guilds were able to handle EQ raid content as it was released.

Dont be fooled into thinking EQ is easier just because of how guilds kill stuff right now, 75% of the people have been there and done that and we still do wipe occasionally.

It's not easy.

True that. You had to take most people by the hand and even then expect many wipes over nowadays trivial things. You didnt want to enter Hate with people who you didnt trust a 100%, let alone Fear. In future expansions you could zone into raid zones without instantly dying though which helped a ton - it at least gave you a chance to have a necro or SK summon your corpse. Try that with Fear or Hate xD

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by fugazi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True that. You had to take most people by the hand and even then expect many wipes over nowadays trivial things. You didnt want to enter Hate with people who you didnt trust a 100%, let alone Fear. In future expansions you could zone into raid zones without instantly dying though which helped a ton - it at least gave you a chance to have a necro or SK summon your corpse. Try that with Fear or Hate xD

No shit, I remember some of the top guilds on my server would have to come in and help others CR when they failed on Fear breaks. I remember my own newb ass guild having a 5 or 6 hour Fear break, as in failing that many times and going back in with backup gear repeatedly. Even in Velious, many guilds could still wipe on raid content. I was called in to help 2nd and 3rd tier guilds CR in Plane of Growth many times.

This server is fantastic, but things are not tuned to the exact same difficulty of classic, and as others have mentioned, most of the playerbase knows these zones very well now. The collective experience means we are all starting way down the learning curve instead of square one.