Senate Foreign Relations Committee votes to give President Obama the power to launch

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if anything you come off as the bigot in this thread but lets not sink to that level

wat

[aowen]

And praise jesus? You must be dumb

[Lojik]

American foreign policy sometimes reminds me of a scifi story where the main character goes around searching for a monster that's killing people. Only after a while he finally realizes that he's the monster. I'm sure that's happened in a famous novel that I read, someone help me out here.

Many people will simply accept any action as long as it has good intentions without fully understanding the consequences. To my mind, that is far more dangerous than willful acts of evil.

Well put. What's the quotation..."Evil exists when good men do nothing?" I think a better one would be "Evil exists when ignorance prevails."

[Estolcles]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

American foreign policy sometimes reminds me of a scifi story where the main character goes around searching for a monster that's killing people. Only after a while he finally realizes that he's the monster. I'm sure that's happened in a famous novel that I read, someone help me out here.



Well put. What's the quotation..."Evil exists when good men do nothing?" I think a better one would be "Evil exists when ignorance prevails."

"I Am Legend" is the book you're thinking of, in recent memory.

They just changed the ending for the movie to make Will Smith not look like an asshole.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

American foreign policy sometimes reminds me of a scifi story where the main character goes around searching for a monster that's killing people. Only after a while he finally realizes that he's the monster. I'm sure that's happened in a famous novel that I read, someone help me out here.

The movie Identity is sort of like this.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try and use more precision with your words.

try *to* find out why the above statement is unintentionally hilarious

I meant exactly what I said. They're inherently uncontrollable. A vague locational target does not satisfy any degree of "control" within the context of weapons delivery. Your false dichotomy between "controlled" and utterly random is ridiculous.

Whatever though, you're boring me. Your opinions are flatly illogical and instead of defending them, you're getting offended and throwing out insults

[aowen]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well put. What's the quotation..."Evil exists when good men do nothing?" I think a better one would be "Evil exists when ignorance prevails."

I agree with this, but I also think evil exists when Henry Kissinger has been involved.

I have a deep-seated doubt that U.S. foreign policy flows solely from naive altruism rather than ulterior motives based on realist interpretations of people and international relations.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am a bigot? I was making a joke. You support a nation that has forced people, ironically, to live in UN and charity subsidized camps for decades, done false flag operations in other countries to support movement to their own (fucking nutty zionism), massacred civilians (Sabra and Shatila Massacre as one example), elected one of the guys who did it as president (Bibi the Butcher Netanyahu), refuses to negotiate for peace, and builds a wall reminiscent of the Berlin wall. I don't give a shit about strategy at that point, I am not going to support a place like that, and neither does the international community. And you can sit here and point fingers at the rest of the dirtbags in the region, 1 we dont support them, 2 that hatred has been bred out of desperation and asinine policy. The U.S. doesn't even agree with a lot of the shit they do for obvious reasons, and I haven't even mentioned their reactionary bombing campaigns or continuing settlement of land that isn't theirs. The U.S. is the only reason Israel isn't sanctioned by almost everywhere in the world, much less a crater. There is no way to say that having that piece of shit on our side is a good strategy, they contribute absolutely nothing, and have caused us more than enough grief. I have no bleeding heart for that place.

wait, so you're bigoted toward jews and hate israel? i am shocked.

also yes we do support "them", them being other "dirtbags in the region". for fy2011 we gave $30 billion in aid to a composite of Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt, the West Bank, and Jordan. Israel got $3 billion.

if you think israel is the worst guy on our payroll, you're ignorant. we support whoever furthers american interests and sometimes, that's some pretty nasty people. israel is a lot more defensible than many others.

hypothetical: do you think we wouldn't give assad $5 billion a year to pull loose from iran, put up a guise of civil rights, and support american initiatives? don't kid yourself, we would. he's just not as easily bought

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Daldolma

wait, so you're bigoted toward jews and hate israel? i am shocked.

how is he a bigot? he made a pretty light-hearted and obvious joke, jesus christ lighten up you uptight doofus

[Stinkum]

and stop saying that pakistan is in the middle east, this is probably the 3rd or 4th post you've said that in this thread. cringeworthy man, pakistan is in south asia, not even remotely close..

or are all brown people the same to you?