Silly Poll (SZ Style Teams)

[heartbrand]

If you want me to concede the point of Kunark pop boost, sure, it got us from double digits to mid 100s at prime time (shit was still a barren wasteland during the daytime). But do you truly in your heart believe that fixes plus velious will get us to the 300+ pop mark? Listen man I'd love to see it happen, tons of guild v guild v guild pvp, lots of skirmishes all over norrath etc, it would be great. I just don't see it. But hey I wear glasses.

Edit: that doesn't mean I don't think they should make fixes or abandon red99. I'm not advocating that at all. Again, personally I MUCH prefer FFA pvp over teams. I hate in wow how I can't kill people on my side who are farming something I want. I like freedom in my MMO's. But apparently there's a lot of people here who would only roll if it was teams.

When I first heard the stream where rogean and crew basically ignored red99 and spoke about the new server I was livid. But after taking the time to see the response by a bunch of new people who seem really enthused about teams, I'm willing to concede that maybe it will workZ

[heartbrand]

I was heavily in the camp when this was announced that this is a win for the trolls who want a wipe as a way of sticking it to nihilum. However take a look at the people against team99. Cwall / retti / lite / tunak all people who seemed disgusted by the path the devs were choosing to go. The biggest enemies of nihilum seem to be strongly in the "just fix red99" camp. There really is a big amount of new blood interested in this. Shrug.

[Dullah]

Problem is, people will go where the most players are on a pvp server, so the less popular server will essentially be wiped without a future merge.

I personally hate teams pvp because its one step away from being completely blue and I know unless a lot of policing is involved and other hardcoded rules to prevent griefing, it won't be any more popular then r99 down the line.

For the sake of the community though, I'd be willing to compromise permitted they made the right decisions regarding a new server. One of those decisions would be to merge the less popular server into the more popular down the line (like they intend to). Another one of those decisions would be to allow a FFA team on the teams server to give us the best of both worlds.

It would be one thing if r99 was at the end of velious and the server was being merged with another server earlier in the timeline, but the gear gap in kunark is minimal. It just seems to me you have some sort of ulterior motive, because I don't personally believe you are stupid enough to actually think a guild with VP gear has that much of an advantage over other kunark players who don't. Especially when the merge won't take place until after t99 will be VP capable.

[Colgate]

vp gear ain't no thang

check the title

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is, people will go where the most players are on a pvp server, so the less popular server will essentially be wiped without a future merge.

I personally hate teams pvp because its one step away from being completely blue and I know unless a lot of policing is involved and other hardcoded rules to prevent griefing, it won't be any more popular then r99 down the line.

For the sake of the community though, I'd be willing to compromise permitted they made the right decisions regarding a new server. One of those decisions would be to merge the less popular server into the more popular down the line (like they intend to). Another one of those decisions would be to allow a FFA team on the teams server to give us the best of both worlds.

It would be one thing if r99 was at the end of velious and the server was being merged with another server earlier in the timeline, but the gear gap in kunark is minimal. It just seems to me you have some sort of ulterior motive, because I don't personally believe you are stupid enough to actually think a guild with VP gear has that much of an advantage over other kunark players who don't. Especially when the merge won't take place until after t99 will be VP capable.

My main concern with a merge is that according to Zade and Sirken the intention or hope would be that team99 merges into red99. If you have a bunch of players coming only because of the team aspect and then pull the rug out from under them six months in that seems like a bad move in my opinion. The red99 into team99 isn't as bad a possibility, but it depends completely upon the timeline aspect. There's a lot of unknowns still, which makes this all hard to predict or form opinions on, but the one thing I do believe is that team99 into red99 would be bad.

[Dullah]

I was under the impression that the less popular server would be merged into the more popular, though after only 3 months of classic and 3 months of kunark, any pvp server would be more popular than another one thats been stuck in kunark for over a year.

[Bogart]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was under the impression that the less popular server would be merged into the more popular, though after only 3 months of classic and 3 months of kunark, any pvp server would be more popular than another one thats been stuck in kunark for over a year.

Me too, there's no way red99 can't lose.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My main concern with a merge is that according to Zade and Sirken the intention or hope would be that team99 merges into red99. If you have a bunch of players coming only because of the team aspect and then pull the rug out from under them six months in that seems like a bad move in my opinion. The red99 into team99 isn't as bad a possibility, but it depends completely upon the timeline aspect. There's a lot of unknowns still, which makes this all hard to predict or form opinions on, but the one thing I do believe is that team99 into red99 would be bad.

But that is basically the deal they are offering. New server for 6 months but then you got to deal with the merge.

No merge means no new server.

[heartbrand]

You're new to the game here elderan. Promises / half promises / claims etc are constantly changed here. I'm still skeptical the server will even happen.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're new to the game here elderan. Promises / half promises / claims etc are constantly changed here. I'm still skeptical the server will even happen.

Me too but the limbo state they placed R99 into is very real.