auction tracker on wiki

[justin2090]

Sadly, auction tracker goes against the "classic" mindset. EC trading was a class in itself on live. That being said, I'm sure if Sony had an auction tracker they would of implemented it, and I don't see how it does anything but help the community.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by justin2090 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sadly, auction tracker goes against the "classic" mindset. EC trading was a class in itself on live. That being said, I'm sure if Sony had an auction tracker they would of implemented it, and I don't see how it does anything but help the community.

Allas tracked prices. It was based on player input and wasn't all that accurate because prices differed from server to server and that feature wasn't always used on every item, but it was there. Entirely classic.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. No one is forcing you to pay what people want for a item. If you want a item and are willing to pay 15k for it your gonna pay that no matter what the wiki says. The wiki should help keep track of what people charge not be used for people to set the prices. There is a difference.

So, let's do away with a wiki feature that keeps players informed about the general going rates for a particular item so they are willing to pay more for them...So the item becomes worth more to them, simply because they are uneducated on what the item has generally been going for?

You are simply proving the point. You just want to rip people off, plain and simple. Even with the wiki, people are still willing to pay higher prices if they don't want to wait around or if they just happen to have the cash to spend. I did that the other night...Paid 100p more for an item that usually goes for 500p because I was tired of waiting for it to come up for sale. What you want is for the general player base to be uninformed, generally so they are always willing to pay more. There's your difference.

[Econ]

Why does everyone think the people that want the auction tracker gone are just trying to rip everyone off? Maybe we are trying to recreate our EC tunnel experience, I don't remember getting tells "wiki says that is worth X amount, so I will give you X amount" on live.
People rely on this information, because it has been handed to them for far too long.
It was not like this on Classic, stop fooling yourself.
Again, why do you feel you are entitled to know every price of every item without putting in ZERO effort to do so?
While we are at it can we please implement a mob tracker, that tells us the last time every single mob was spawned?

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does everyone think the people that want the auction tracker gone are just trying to rip everyone off? Maybe we are trying to recreate our EC tunnel experience, I don't remember getting tells "wiki says that is worth X amount, so I will give you X amount" on live.
People rely on this information, because it has been handed to them for far too long.
It was not like this on Classic, stop fooling yourself.
Again, why do you feel you are entitled to know every price of every item without putting in ZERO effort to do so?
While we are at it can we please implement a mob tracker, that tells us the last time every single mob was spawned?

You can get the same info by doing a PC, just as you could live. I'm assuming your "EC tunnel experience" was that of ripping uninformed players off. Why are you entitled to do that?

I mean seriously, you people are openly arguing not for something that isn't classic in the game, but for removing an OUT OF GAME WEBSITE FUNCTION that is nothing other than simple, easy to find information, for the express purpose of screwing people with inflated pricing. Listen to yourselves.

[justin2090]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Allas tracked prices. It was based on player input and wasn't all that accurate because prices differed from server to server and that feature wasn't always used on every item, but it was there. Entirely classic.

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't remember getting tells "wiki says that is worth X amount, so I will give you X amount" on live.

And I don't remember getting tells that Allakazam said it was worth X amount either. Not classic.

[Econ]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can get the same info by doing a PC, just as you could live. I'm assuming your "EC tunnel experience" was that of ripping uninformed players off. Why are you entitled to do that?

I mean seriously, you people are openly arguing not for something that isn't classic in the game, but for removing an OUT OF GAME WEBSITE FUNCTION that is nothing other than simple, easy to find information, for the express purpose of screwing people with inflated pricing. Listen to yourselves.

I don't rip anyone off, why do you keep saying this? Oh that's right, it is your ONLY argument.
Wether the tracker is up or not, I will still acquire massive amounts of platinum. This "OUT OF GAME WEBSITE FUNCTION" is hosted on p99 website. This is equal to Sony hosting it.
You just want your hand held, maybe you should try a different MMO.
Oh and while we are catering to casuals, how about that mob spawn tracker? I don't want to spend 8+ hrs camping Haden or whatever else, so can you please give me a wiki page where I can have all this data handed to me.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does everyone think the people that want the auction tracker gone are just trying to rip everyone off? Maybe we are trying to recreate our EC tunnel experience, I don't remember getting tells "wiki says that is worth X amount, so I will give you X amount" on live.
People rely on this information, because it has been handed to them for far too long.
It was not like this on Classic, stop fooling yourself.
Again, why do you feel you are entitled to know every price of every item without putting in ZERO effort to do so?
While we are at it can we please implement a mob tracker, that tells us the last time every single mob was spawned?

As an economist (cough) you should know the only thing determining price is supply / demand. If someone sends you a tell offering the wiki price and you don't want to take that price, you tell them no. If they can't find it elsewhere cheaper, they may come back to you and pay your asking. THAT is how it works.

Maybe you should put everyone on /ignore that might send you a tell bringing you back to 2013. Reminds me of the movie "Somewhere in Time". While "back in time" in 1912, he discovers a penny in his pocket with a mint date of 1979 and is pulled back to current time. Time travel didn't work for him, and it won't work for you.

[justin2090]

Besides, friend A could sell friend B a fbss for 8k. Then friend B sell to friend C for 7k (etc etc). Now the price has dropped on wiki and they can buy all the ones selling for 7k, wait for market to go back up and sell for 12k. Using wiki to manipulate the price of something is not free market. Scammers gonna scam regardless.

[Econ]

We have multiple resources to check the market prices of items. The wiki is not the authority on it, but people think it is. Furthermore, due to inflation, people cannot figure out that the ALL TIME AVERAGE PRICE is wrong, and people fail to see more current data as relevant.
I am all for the wiki data when it is referenced correctly.
Also, you people have it all backwards.EC tunnel traders do not make platinum from selling to other players at higher than market prices. Regardless if the wiki is there or not, profits will still be made. I just wanted to recreate my EQ classic experience like you guys do, is that so wrong of me?