Classic / Kunark state of the union

[senna]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Running it to an accurate timeline is overrated... especially when we don't know what'll happen to P99 after Velious.

Pretty sure its been stated that there will be a new blue server launched following an accurate timeline.

And while it may be overrated to you, its not for the majority. Kunark was and still is a pretty weak expansion IMO, let alone having to toil in it for years.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure its been stated that there will be a new blue server launched following an accurate timeline.

If you can find where that's been said by anyone that counts, then that's great for you.

Opening a new server will indirectly kill the old server, you know that.... we all know that. There isn't the population to split among 2 PvE servers, so either find another 1500-2000 players to play P99 or stop asking for a new server.

Why do you even want a new server? Want to be richer than others compared to now? Want to own 10 manastones/fungis...well so will everyone else. Think there won't be a TMO on the new one? Think it'll run better than this one?

I don't get it. Nothing will change, except there won't be as many twinks around for a few months.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you even want a new server?

--The server, during classic, wasn't classic. We had unclassic mechanics of all types from dot stacking to permanent charm, to root/snare stacking, to maps, targetting rings, translocators, people were boxing because they weren't as good at catching them, and that's just the stuff off the top of my head. The list goes on and on. Oh and add to that that people amassed plat fortunes by selling accounts until very recently, something that NEVER remotely was sanctioned live. These things not only made the play experience not classic, they also had an impact on the economy, and player advancement in general, in the long term that doesn't get undone by simply making the changes to classic. There are hybrids who got to top level with no hybrid exp penalty, for example. It's arguably not classic now, which is being discussed in this thread. It's very close and they've done a fantastic job, but there is still a long way to go to actually be classic.

--The timeline, because we've all been playing on a work in progress, has unavoidably been un-classic. Not a slam on the project, but it is the simple reality of the matter.

--The populations of the server now are the highest they've ever been. There are probably, at this point, more people that rabidly play here now that missed classic entirely than there were playing during classic. A lot of those people want to experience classic again.

--It's just fun to play on a new server. Especially during this era.

A new server will not kill the current server. We get new people every day. A lot more now than ever, as word has gotten out about the project. Couple that with the fact that the game is 14 years old....All of the camps and zones are well known now. You don't need 3k people to have a healthy server like on live. In fact, with the number of complete nutsacks we have playing here, you really don't need 1k people to have a healthy population. We all bump into one another much more than we did back then.

Saying that the only difference will be that there will be fewer twinks or that people just want manastones is a ridiculous oversimplification. And and untrue one, at that.

[senna]

Because I missed the launch of p99 and so did a majority of the players.

I'm really struggling to see why launching a new blue server at some point on a classic timeline is a bad thing. After all the work of fixing bugs and trying to make things classic it almost seems like its been building towards that.

But let velious launch, let everyone have their fun and enjoy the ride. But at the end of the tunnel when everyones burned out in velious like they are in kunark now, Its the only solution.

IMO I'd rather have them continue into luclin, but I doubt that'll happen.

[justin2090]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can find where that's been said by anyone that counts, then that's great for you.

Opening a new server will indirectly kill the old server, you know that.... we all know that. There isn't the population to split among 2 PvE servers, so either find another 1500-2000 players to play P99 or stop asking for a new server.

Why do you even want a new server? Want to be richer than others compared to now? Want to own 10 manastones/fungis...well so will everyone else. Think there won't be a TMO on the new one? Think it'll run better than this one?

I don't get it. Nothing will change, except there won't be as many twinks around for a few months.

^--- This all day long. Classic EQ didn't have the population at launch compared to kunark and velious. The population increase and people not having all the pre-nerfs and such is entirely classic. We just missed the boat... again. lol

[wrxBRAH]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can find where that's been said by anyone that counts, then that's great for you.

Opening a new server will indirectly kill the old server, you know that.... we all know that. There isn't the population to split among 2 PvE servers, so either find another 1500-2000 players to play P99 or stop asking for a new server.

Why do you even want a new server? Want to be richer than others compared to now? Want to own 10 manastones/fungis...well so will everyone else. Think there won't be a TMO on the new one? Think it'll run better than this one?

I don't get it. Nothing will change, except there won't be as many twinks around for a few months.

The server is saturated beyond repair. That said, people like this guy getting their panties in a wad trying to protect their pixels is about as classic as it gets.

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure its been stated that there will be a new blue server launched following an accurate timeline.

And while it may be overrated to you, its not for the majority. Kunark was and still is a pretty weak expansion IMO, let alone having to toil in it for years.

On the contrary, Nilbog has stated there won't be another blue server, ever. As has Sirken multiple times on his stream. I'm not sure what you guys are going on about - are we playing hypothetical?

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the contrary, Nilbog has stated there won't be another blue server, ever. As has Sirken multiple times on his stream. I'm not sure what you guys are going on about - are we playing hypothetical?

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=117415

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Running it to an accurate timeline is overrated... especially when we don't know what'll happen to P99 after Velious.

It has a major effect on the economy. And because it's been out so long, people have taken to gearing low level alts in epics. Funghis are a dime a dozen, but they don't cost that because they are priced to sell to people who have half a million plat laying around. All of which is pretty unclassic, at least on the scale it is here.

But you are right, being a classic server it should stop completely with velious and it will be the same then, too. Unavoidable with limited expansions.

I would disagree that an accurate timeline is overrated, though, until that point.

[NegaStoat]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Been in Kunark far far too long. IMO its been a great test run, but I expect the real launch to be the one worth devoting to.

Yeah, this has me confused. It's been stated by the P1999 staff numerous times that there will never be a server wipe. Ever. So... Did Nilbog or someone else state somewhere in a thread that when Velious was perfected, a new server would be created? Or that the existing Blue server would be wiped and restarted? Because I'd really like to see the links if that's the case.

As is stands now there's probably going to be a new PvP rules based server that's going to be launched, but that after a certain amount of time the new PvP server would be merged in with the old PvP server. Which implies they're pretty happy with just running two total servers.