auction tracker on wiki

[Econ]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Neither is accurate, both are manipulated. There is no source for the actual prices items sell at, only people uploading logs of /auc chat.

That said, both are useful and the people who "want them gone" are mostly those who want to rip off people who don't spend hours every day watching auctions in EC. There are excellent words available to describe such people, but they tend to get threads moved to RnF when posted.

The auction tracker is a huge influence on the market, nothing on live every influenced prices are strongly as this does.
It is not such a bad thing, but when people base their buy/sells on the Average all time price*** then it becomes frustrating. It has logs of prices from 3 years ago in that average, and some people just don't get how the data reflects on the current market.
You are not entitled to know every price of every item on the market; not everyone had this information on live unless they camped the tunnel.

[Ajkuhuun]

not everyone had this information on live unless they camped the tunnel.

Not until Luclin that is.

Is it absolutely necessary? No, you're right. Is it helpful to those of us just starting and unfamiliar with the economy on p99? Absolutely.

As someone relatively new to the server the auction tracker has been an invaluable resource. Coming from live, where the prices have been so horribly inflated there's just no way to tell what would be a fair price here on P99, having something you can refer to for even what people have asked lately is great. The folks who camp the tunnel are still going to bring in plat by buying low and selling high (no amount of information can dissuade the need for quick plat if you need it), and by basically snowing someone who doesn't know about the tracker or doesn't bother checking it for every item. Of course not everyone who plays the tunnel makes their plat by cashing in on the ignorance of the buyer, many rake in the plat buying low/selling high or by selling items people don't want to put in the time to farm (tradeskills anyone?), but for those who do, I can see how the absence of the auction tracker would be a boon to business :P

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by crkhobbit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious question: why do people want the tracker gone? Doesn't it help to insure fair market values?

As a newb who doesn't know values, it seems like a good thing.

Yes, and that's why the crooks of the server want it gone.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The auction tracker is a huge influence on the market, nothing on live every influenced prices are strongly as this does.
It is not such a bad thing, but when people base their buy/sells on the Average all time price*** then it becomes frustrating. It has logs of prices from 3 years ago in that average, and some people just don't get how the data reflects on the current market.
You are not entitled to know every price of every item on the market; not everyone had this information on live unless they camped the tunnel.

Nonsense. Live had price trackers, and everybody used them in the classic era.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Reguiy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So EC traders can rip people off.

Yep

So if the majority of the server wants it gone, that does tell you something.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep

So if the majority of the server wants it gone, that does tell you something.

These empty claims about "the majority of the server" are worth exactly what goes into making them: nothing. A handful of forum posters (who could all be the same person) does not constitute "the majority of the server".

[Estu]

The 'recent changes' log in the P99 Wiki has the following entries by Ravhin:


(diff | hist) . . m Main Page‎; 10:40 . . (-43)‎ . . ‎Ravhin (Talk | contribs)‎ (disable auctiontracker temporarily)
(diff | hist) . . m Template:Itempage‎; 10:39 . . (-41)‎ . . ‎Ravhin (Talk | contribs)‎ (remove auctiontracker from items temporarily)

Key word: temporarily.

[xnolanx]

Originally Posted by NegaStoat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was disgruntled as well, but ah well. It just means I have to keep a piece of notebook paper on the desk to manually track prices of items I give a crap about for my character. The tracker was a great time saver, but not the end of the world.

even better.. there's /note you can use and just keep it all recorded in your actual UI and not have to have an external piece of paper .. it's built into your client..

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Reguiy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So EC traders can rip people off.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep

So if the majority of the server wants it gone, that does tell you something.

The last time I saw a poll on this, the people who voted to keep the tracker were about double those who wanted it gone.

The ONLY reason anyone would want an uninformed customer is so they can rip them off. Period.

Not everyone wants to spend their whole life in EC playing the trading game and they shouldn't be prone to getting ripped off because they don't sit in EC all the time.