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Old 09-01-2013, 01:54 PM
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As a blue player I just assumed to post in the blue forums, sorry Tec didn't mean to anger you on a minor issue such as posting subject matter in what I now know is the wrong place. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*edit* Also should add I didn't really bother to check the red forums, although I've played it a little I don't often venture to the pvp forum.
No apolgies necessary, I mostly play blue too and don't really go to the red section that much. I had been looking forward to the twitch feed for weeks but completely forgot about it till I saw your thread. So, thanks for posting.

Even if you were trying to get people to come to red, who freaking cares? We don't need self appointed forum police, and anyone who doesn't want to read something are *gasp* more than welcome to not read it. The fact that someone would actually take the time to create and post a gif in a thread that they clearly have no interest in anyway is just LOL
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:56 PM
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:53 PM
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teams server inc, no eta. 3 teams seems like the most favored amount of teams. i am praying to tunare they use the SZ ruleset or at least the teams from sz. pras.
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:54 PM
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:17 PM
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I'm praying they use 100% SZ ruleset with classic resists and stop listening to these box locusts who destroy every EMU server they play on.

I don't understand how Nilbog can be so adamant about classicism on blue but on the other hand Rogean/Sirken tries to bend over backwards to appease a small very vocal minority of red players.

SZ may of been the lowest pop server but it also came at a much latter time then VZ/TZ/RZ if it was a launch server it would of been grand.

This is the LAST chance for a good pvp EMU server don't fuck it up with global /ooc custom resists yellow fucking text, battlegrounds custom pvp levels,Insane XP bonuses and Variance. Make it SZ rules, make it CLASSIC and people will play on it just because it's a new server.

Hardcoded teams with no level limit fixes OOR Healing,Cross Teaming and cuts down on high level griefing.

My only issue is that with Kunark being 100% evil dominated and allowing for leveling from 1-60 in almost uncontested territory made evils the go to choice for blue players, This was evened out with Velious allowing the neutrals to move there and having the good team stay in mostly old world.

If the server is released with out Velious it may destroy the ecosystem irreparably or it may force the good/neutrals to make a foothold inside of FV and maybe chance it for the better that remains to be seen.

I'll be discussing this more on my stream soon in about an hour, I welcome any and all opinions.
SZ rules could easily be done on a garage box overnight. The expansions for SZ were even titanium. It was a titanium box. I don't see why someone from the SZ community hase not done it already. Don't forget SZ had custom resists and spells in PVP by then, or very shortly after it launched, from classic.

That being said if an SZ box popped up with the "Integrity" of P99 (yes I just used P99 as setting the bar for EMU integrity) I would try it in a heartbeat.

I'de much rather prefer P99 do it so I can have my toons merged there or don't loose them if the box dies.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:20 PM
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I'm praying they use 100% SZ ruleset with classic resists and stop listening to these box locusts who destroy every EMU server they play on.

I don't understand how Nilbog can be so adamant about classicism on blue but on the other hand Rogean/Sirken tries to bend over backwards to appease a small very vocal minority of red players.

SZ may of been the lowest pop server but it also came at a much latter time then VZ/TZ/RZ if it was a launch server it would of been grand.

This is the LAST chance for a good pvp EMU server don't fuck it up with global /ooc custom resists yellow fucking text, battlegrounds custom pvp levels,Insane XP bonuses and Variance. Make it SZ rules, make it CLASSIC and people will play on it just because it's a new server.

Hardcoded teams with no level limit fixes OOR Healing,Cross Teaming and cuts down on high level griefing.

My only issue is that with Kunark being 100% evil dominated and allowing for leveling from 1-60 in almost uncontested territory made evils the go to choice for blue players, This was evened out with Velious allowing the neutrals to move there and having the good team stay in mostly old world.

If the server is released with out Velious it may destroy the ecosystem irreparably or it may force the good/neutrals to make a foothold inside of FV and maybe chance it for the better that remains to be seen.

I'll be discussing this more on my stream soon in about an hour, I welcome any and all opinions.
wow this person on blue (and in TMO no less) actually knows what the fuck he is talking about. unlike all the morans on the red forums now crying about their precious ffa server lol. pras tiggles, i hope to see you on the new box but understand if you dont come.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:21 PM
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SZ rules could easily be done on a garage box overnight. The expansions for SZ were even titanium. It was a titanium box. I don't see why someone from the SZ community hase not done it already. Don't forget SZ had custom resists and spells in PVP by then, or very shortly after it launched, from classic.

That being said if an SZ box popped up with the "Integrity" of P99 (yes I just used P99 as setting the bar for EMU integrity) I would try it in a heartbeat.

I'de much rather prefer P99 do it so I can have my toons merged there or don't loose them if the box dies.
Yeah SZ had a lot of fixes that they learned from the other PVP servers, you don't have to add a lot of new shit
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:21 PM
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I like Tiggles. *Nvm! Tiggles admitted it and he is the better man!* <3
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:25 PM
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wow this person on blue (and in TMO no less) actually knows what the fuck he is talking about. unlike all the morans on the red forums now crying about their precious ffa server lol. pras tiggles, i hope to see you on the new box but understand if you dont come.
I'm a savage bluebie now, but I played on SZ since day one till Gates of Discord and I played on VZ/TZ when I found out about EMUs.

The red community now is the reason why we can't have a high population PVP server and if they are not pandered too you will attract a population of players.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:29 PM
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I like Tiggles. He's missing some facts about SZ. Like that fact that it wasn't a classic box at all, ever.
SZ went live during Velious. That's classic era as most consider it. Luclin came a few months later and the portals of that, along with the later clicky books and pok of PoP worked heavily against the nature of that particular ruleset. Don't know about that personally because I was only there for the first few months, but during the time I was there it was awesome.

And he's right...SZ ruleset was an answer to what was wrong with the the other zeks. And it appealed to the broadest base of players.

I had the twitch thing running while I was doing other things, but it sounds like they are wanting to put in narrow pvp level limits and training came up, but I'm not sure what they said about that. If they go with a ruleset like SZ but put in level limits and disallow training they are going to cock up the whole thing up. SZ had a balance to it that worked.

Fix resists and go with the straightup SZ ruleset as it was on SZ, with velious at release, and this server will be fantastic.
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