Rogean be our PVP Savior...

[PhelanKA]

Originally Posted by Kizzik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP in Everquest is completely retarded and anyone who likes PvP on Everquest is completely retarded. So, I guess start up a Special Olympics server for people who like the absolutely godawful PvP system that the Verant developers shat out when they ate too much salami at the cafeteria

No. You.

[Tseng]

EQ was just NEVER balanced around PvP, and as such it has great inequities (wizard manaburns lolz comes to mind)

[Jaxon]

I played a Neutral on Sullon Zek when it first came out. I had a good time, but I also had:

1. A group whenever I logged in.
2. 100 buddies online to back me up.
3. A level/gear advantage over maybe 80% of our opponents.

Whenever I had these things, I usually won and EQ pvp was fun. Whenever I didn't have them, I lost and it sucked. It's not worth playing unless you're the baddest dog in the cage(or close enough to it to have a shot at winning a battle).

[HippoNipple]

People who don't like EQ PvP are just babies. I can't stand hearing people complain about things being balanced, they are what they are you should just deal with it. PvP on EQ with 1 item loot was the most fun I have ever had with PvP on a game, one exception would be The Realm but most people have never even heard of that game.

I never had a bunch of powerful friends on Rallos Zek, and I didn't have the best gear. If your class isn't the best for it then you can just roll whatever class you want, or you can take pride in being a tougher class to be and man up. You can always hang with friends if you can't 1 vs 1 pvp well, and most of the time the classes that can't 1 vs 1 well are in groups anyways for exping. Warriors have a really hard time in pvp servers, but then again raiding guilds still need them. It makes it that much more rewarding being a high level warrior on a PvP server. Just because you aren't the best PvPer doesn't mean you don't still have rewards on the server. If you have a max level tank you will be greatly needed since the majority of players are pure casters. Rangers get crapped on here but if you are a ranger with good MR gear on a PvP server people won't talk as much crap.

Balancing PvP is what ruins PvP in games, it turns into a fps then. The people who can't handle the concept of unbalanced PvP are the same people that piss everyone off on this server. They are greedy and want to be the best at everything. The people who currently camp all of the raiding content or farm spots 24/7 can't handle the concept of not being the best at everything, PvE and PvP. They master the PvE content and can't cope with the fact that players in PvP can figure out a way to be better than them sometimes. Thats when people cry and say they need balancing because their planar gear should beat everyone.

To all the complainers that crap on EQ PvP stop bitching and dogging on the people who enjoy pvp. You don't have to worry anyways, the p1999 team isn't going to abandon this server. Every time someone brings up PvP people on here get defensive about this server and try to say how stupid PvP is. Some people like myself just have memories of classic that aren't represented here. This is the first blue server I have ever played on so Project 1999 isn't really classic to me, but its still a lot of fun. I'm still grateful to have the server and its better than I expected, but it doesn't mean I wouldn't rather have a rallos zek classic server run as well as this server is.

[Jaxon]

Once your hardcore raiding guild figures out that resist gear is better for pvp, it's all over. An uberguild from another server decided to play on SZ, and we failed hard trying to beat them. In the beginning, they outleveled us by a fair margin, which was just about an automatic win due to resists and better spells. But then they started to raid dragons and gear up. Despite all of our res-box trains, despite camping their geared corpses for 3 days in Skyshrine in an attempt to rot them, and despite our bind-point camping and deleveling one of their bards, they eventually got into ToV and farmed all its insane +hp +resist gear. There was no way to recover from that. Our only hope of beating them was that they would get bored and quit, which they did.

[ukaking]

I had little problems as an Ikky Warrior carving out my own little rep for not taking shit from anyone on Rallos Zek. This is the first blue server I've really been on too and its great, but my fondest memories are mostly PvP related.

[PhelanKA]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who don't like EQ PvP are just babies.

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I'm from Rallos Zek as well and I just have to say that EQ PVP was horribly balanced. That's probably an understatement. It was probably the WORST balanced PVP. What made Rallos Zek so much fun though were the people. This was before the days of "lulz" and "epeens" and all the fucking nonsense that makes online communities so petulant and repugnant anymore. A majority of the playerbase on RZ were mature and intelligent adults. The people that wanted to grief either didn't last long or they joined Darkenbane. Either way griefers were not much of a threat beyond level 20.

It was a lot of fun as Hippo obviously remembers as well. I certainly don't expect anyone who wasn't on RZ to "get it" so I'll just end my rant there.

[Tseng]

I'm not saying EQ pvp wasn't/can't be fun. I definitely think it can. I am looking forward to and will be participating in the pvp event that will be going on. I just pointed out the obvious - this game was never balanced around pvp.

[wvdmc]

We didn't have all this whining about camp stealing and raid rotations on RZ.

[Maurk]

how much would it cost to get a pvp server going?
i'd personally donate to get a pvp classic server.
plus it would give some of us late joiners a chance to play from scratch too