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[Lyra]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I've seen plenty of stupid shit much like the OP reports when playing untwinked alts. Seen plenty of morons opining at length about how awful it is to group with non-twinks and hybrids while playing my warrior twink. His anecdotes are every bit as valid as yours and mine. Honestly, you remind me of my brother and sister who insist that racial discrimination is over in the US because they never encounter it in their lily white suburban lifestyles.

If I were only playing in Old Sebilis and not in Crushbone, your analogy might fight. I play in Crushbone frequently and I am experiencing no "discrimination".

I'll note you refused to acknowledge I'm at the AC camp in So Ro yet so much complaining about how difficult the camp is to get. And just to clarify, I've never sold a MQ, ever.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I were only playing in Old Sebilis and not in Crushbone, your analogy might fight. I play in Crushbone frequently and I am experiencing no "discrimination".

I'll note you refused to acknowledge I'm at the AC camp in So Ro yet so much complaining about how difficult the camp is to get. And just to clarify, I've never sold a MQ, ever.

Well, if it makes you feel better to have it explicitly acknowledged... I do hope you enjoy your often unavailable AC camp. You are now in the enviable position of denying that highly desired bit of content to others, does that help you feel good about yourself?

(Trying to lighten the mood, btw. This has gotten far too serious and I agree that I am partly to blame.)

[Tycko]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm at the AC camp in So Ro yet so much complaining about how difficult the camp is to get.

So your saying that because you have gotten the camp just recently that it is easy to get? I suppose that makes every camp in game easy to get into because someone is always at the camp. Your train of thought seems to be erroneous.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Gazer75 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What server did you play on webrunner5?

On E'ci there was no problem doing regular group rotation on camp spots in LGuk or Seb.
If a person left a new one on a list came down to replace as needed.
There was the occasional group whipes and some groups were not as effective, but you didn't need a guild to get stuff that could be done with a group.
I never did the bottom of Seb that much, but the few times I did it was with groups created at entrance with a friend or two.
As I said in previous post, I think E'ci was a bit unique in that the average player were pretty good.

The key for me and my guild was that everyone respected us. We were kind and helped people and got help in return if needed. No idea what rank Na Koa was, but not at the top, thats for sure. This made a big difference when I did my clerics epic quest. Believe I waited in line for Ragefire for about 2 months and camped him for almost a week with Nagafen popping up after 4 days.

All gear I got on all my characters were all camped for fair and square. No random rolls.
First come first serve was the common way iirc. Could take a week camping a single spot before I got even close to me being next in line for the item I wanted. And at that point you didn't leave until it dropped, even if it would take another 12+ hours.
Took me around 24 hours or so camping jboots in Najena. Think I sold one TBB once, but that I got only cause no one in group needed so it was randomed off.

I played on the Torvo Server. I could not at the time devote that much time to EQ. I was working a lot of hours and had a large family to feed lol. Nice to see you did that well on E'ci.

[fastboy21]

the issue isn't whether it is easy or not to get, but whether it is unobtainable because of RMT driven play.

i don't see all the ruined game play from RMT that folks are reporting. i see the natural consequences of a 4 year old classic server (based on a 14 year old game) that folks love to play to excess.

[Randy]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NBG doesn't work in the general case, it fails because people lie, they lie often, they lie to people they call their friends.

I abide by whatever loot position the rest of the group takes. I've certainly have passed on many items that I knew were upgrades for others, although I can't be 100% certain that they hadn't sold a better piece at some earlier time. I've seen players do the "I camped all my stuff" routine and have it turn out multiple times that it really meant "I saved all my pp & cash loots for my twinks because I can get randoms in PUGs to equip my main by claiming need".

NBG can work in a guild context, but only if being a member of the guild is more desirable to the potential liar/cheater than the pixels they're drooling after. Lotta toons in high end guilds who parasited off earlier guilds (either the player hopped guilds or the account was sold/traded), rewarding that shit is the real crime of the TMO's of this world against their server communities.

Final point: It's all greed. You play how you like and I hope you have a good time doing so, but don't expect me not to laugh at the notion of dressing up any player's pixel greed by calling it need. It's all greed.

This is the sad reality. It still blows my mind that RMT even exists on this server and people lie to everyone. I think half the players don't like playing EQ as much as they just like being dicks and are so pathetic in real life they need to do it in pixels. I'll never understand the gratification of paying for an item or screwing over others.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Randy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the sad reality. It still blows my mind that RMT even exists on this server and people lie to everyone. I think half the players don't like playing EQ as much as they just like being dicks and are so pathetic in real life they need to do it in pixels. I'll never understand the gratification of paying for an item or screwing over others.

Don't make it out to be worse than it is. The jerks tend to stand out in your memory more than the inoffensive decent guys who handled themselves fine in your groups and didn't do anything wild to make you remember them. There're certainly more than enough jerks here, but they're still only a small minority of the total. Many of them are drawn to the endgame, there's a higher concentration there, but they're a minority still. And certainly IME there's a higher concentration of jerks amongst the RMTers also. Even so, I'm pretty sure that at all levels in this community, with the possible exception of the leadership cliques of certain organizations, the cool people outnumber the assholes who wrongly imagine themselves to be cool.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Randy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll never understand the gratification of paying for an item or screwing over others.

So I take it you are one of those off-the-grid, live-off-the-land, doesn't have the internet because you can't stand the thought of using something that you didn't mak... oh wait.

RMTing for something in a video game is the same as buying something in RL. Some people like to put the work in to get something directly themselves and take special pleasure in the process. Other people want an end result and are ok skipping the process of getting there by just buying what they want.

[Langrisser]

RMT fan boi right here.

we know why people do it. it can be helped here, unlike this real world you seem to live in... everything is tracked by the real gods.

fail logic is fail. this is not real life. for some of us.

[Zhaige]

Just reading through this thread, I believe a lot of these issues would be eliminated if p1999 content progressed at the normal rate of live rather than having 2 years with stagnated content. Veterans have all this built up PP and gear to use on lowbie alts because they do not have new content to progress with their mains.

There is no fix-action for this other than starting a new server, which many would obviously not want. The results of the current situation seem only natural.

I would love to see a new server created once Velious is released for this very reason. Starting as a blank slate with everyone would definitely rejuvinate a large portion of the worn-out p1999 fans, but I guess this is just a pipedream? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]