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Old 08-22-2013, 07:36 PM
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can anyone say when Europa typically starts Sky? We could recommend a Western Hemisphere server-wide effort to clear Sky 2 hours before they can field a raid. Every day. And don't buff/trade/group with any of their members. After all... we can all play the ultimatum game, right? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Like this. Was kind of thinking the same thing.

This also doesn't just effect Taken. This act pretty much puts the only rotation this server was ever able to come together on at risk.


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Nobody responded to their post in this thread dedicated to having a sky schedule. The onus is on the community as a whole to make something work, not just them. If they are not given a proper slot, or if something is not worked out, why not just do whatever works for you? It worked for IB
While this is unfortunate, you are missing the point. We thought we had decent relations with europa. if they had decided on Thursday it would have been easy to contact any of us and start working out something. When they went in behind our backs we were all pretty much shocked. And discussion was engaged with Europa after the fact at that point too, which was met with apathy. All of this could have easily been avoided. A vague post stating they are taking a day without any other further information doesnt cut it
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:36 PM
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I just don't see why nobody reached out to them except for FE. Apparently nobody gives a fuck about their sky day, and this is what had resulted. I hope you all can reach an agreement in the near future to maintain this rotation.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:39 PM
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I just don't see why nobody reached out to them except for FE. Apparently nobody gives a fuck about their sky day, and this is what had resulted. I hope you all can reach an agreement in the near future to maintain this rotation.
Bregan D'Aerth also offered them to work into Friday, but did not show up at the agreed upon times, threatening Bregan's respawn schedule. So, +1 to the list.

And as someone who was waiting that morning, we were not even informed of the call off.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:40 PM
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It would have certainty been considerate if they had contacted you to let you know, and it is messed up if your two guilds had a good rapport. Once again, I really hope everybody can work together to accommodate each other now that every guild is capable of doing the higher islands.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:43 PM
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I just don't see why nobody reached out to them except for FE. Apparently nobody gives a fuck about their sky day, and this is what had resulted. I hope you all can reach an agreement in the near future to maintain this rotation.
Here's the way they can reach agreement, if that is their intention:

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And that starts with them figuring out what day of the week they want to go up there, and directly asking the leadership of the guild that has that slot to work something out with them. Is there any compelling reason why they cannot do that? If so, I'd like to hear it.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:44 PM
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Bregan D'Aerth also offered them to work into Friday, but did not show up at the agreed upon times, threatening Bregan's respawn schedule. So, +1 to the list.
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As you might have missed my last message here I am again. Let me know if we could work smthg out - next possible option would be FRI Aug 9th...

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ya, that's work for us as long as you make sure to start early enough that things start repopping between 7-8pm EST... we'll set aside the 9th for the go round
and then they no-showed
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:55 PM
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So the issue is their internal communication/leadership?
The issue is they cannot commit to a single day like the rest of the guilds have in order to make this work. They need the full spectrum of 7 days of opportunity to field a Sky raid force apparently, hence the flakiness/no-shows. That's not how this works when the other guilds are committing to a specific day.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:58 PM
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I sympathize with Taken. It sucks to port up to Sky and be like WELL NOTHING IS UP WHAT DO WE DO NOW.

I can also sympathize with Europa. Just read this thread; any time a guild has tried to join the Sky rotation it has been like pulling teeth.

TBH I don't think this rotation will last till the end of the year. There are just too many people that want to do Sky.
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:14 PM
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I can also sympathize with Europa. Just read this thread; any time a guild has tried to join the Sky rotation it has been like pulling teeth.
How so? FE and BDA have tried to accommodate:

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So far only Forceful Entry has contacted me but Saturday just really doesn't work for us.
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As you might have missed my last message here I am again. Let me know if we could work smthg out - next possible option would be FRI Aug 9th...

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ya, that's work for us as long as you make sure to start early enough that things start repopping between 7-8pm EST... we'll set aside the 9th for the go round
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and then they no-showed
Europa can't commit to a specific day. They want to just go up whenever is convenient for them. You know what... I'm sure all the other guilds would rather go up when it's convenient for them... but that's not how this works.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:40 PM
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who cares if anyone responded or not, they broke the rotation plain and simple.

they are in the wrong. to say otherwise is flat out stupid.

or...if i post that we're taking the next trakanon spawn and nobody objects, does that mean it is ours?

come on people - use your heads, they bullied their way into a rotation night that wasnt theres plain and simple.

edit: the fact that they already had a sky rotation spot, they just wanted someone elses...hmmm
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