Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much this is what I remember. I think Rogean even made a post. Now that there is FTE, and a lot has changed on the server I don't see why the zone should be a FFA. Haven't been able to read all 72 pages yet, so if I am wrong, then I am wrong.

Pretty sure you're wrong. The pathing is still bad; dragons go through walls; trains happen accidentally far too often; you're asking for no sleep as a GM.

Also, see Rogean's post on this.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/guildwar doesn't work, but it needs to be implemented.

Omg I agree with you on something.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by timhutton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do people keep using the argument that if training weren't allowed in VP that petitions would increase to some ungodly number? How would it be any different than any of the other encounters in the game?

Is it due to the assumed poor pathing that would cause "accidental" trains? Is it due to the fact players would have to be careful around each other?

Why are we under the assumption...

Spend even 1 hour attempting a raid in VP, and you'll know the answer to all of your stupid questions. There are no assumptions.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yet when you guys first dispell people then get it returned to you

Get your facts straight, Dodo Bird.

[Wotsirb401]

It has been stated by several GM's, non CSR. Nothing is illegal unless stated. Hence if there was no rmt post on the boards, then RMT would be legal

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by velioussales99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or just review frapses of trains and deal enough 2 week bans until either enough of FEs or TMOs are suspended until VP becomes a "contested" zone and not a train fest anymore.

How does that sound to you ?

I'm sure GMs will sleep just as fine. In fact, they can do what ever they want if they want to make VP more classic, they just will and you will have to comply.

You can't always tell from a fraps if a train in VP is accidental unless you're right on top of the trainer, in which case you're probably going to die. And you may not be able to tell if the trainer is doing it on purpose to boot. The only thing you can tell from a fraps is if (1) the train is blatant (such as Xerxes or Huen fd'ing on top of a raid; getting up to re-agro; fd'ing; etc.) or (2) if the trainer is obviously using the pathing (which is supposedly fixed) to his advantage (and his foes' disadvantage).

Someday, when you go to VP with a raid force, you're going to find that your puller is going to kill the raid a lot through accidental trains, mostly due to buggy pathing. With 2 or more guilds in VP contending for the same dragon, accidental trains are going to happen all night buddy. And I do mean accidental. There will be 50 petitions an hour.

And great gnashing of teeth.

[Splorf22]

FWIW the train rules don't distinguish between intentional and unintentional.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FWIW the train rules don't distinguish between intentional and unintentional.

All the more reason to keep training in VP legal. Sakuragai, you were in VP with TMO collecting rot loot from us. You know how it works.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Nietche [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get your facts straight, Dodo Bird.

I do have them straight. Try to actually have a conversation without acting like a 5 year old.

[sanforce]

WTB /guildwar