Luclin

Champion_Standing · #1 08-12-2013, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the end that's ok... I and others who do get it will just move to the places where those things exist (e.g. p99). What's truly bizarre is when those places attract others who go there for what it is, and then agitate to pull it down with the same changes that destroyed it originally. So Surely you can see how ironic, frustrating, and aggravating that is. Why do you want every game to be the same? Don't you understand the things that you are desiring to bring here are the very things that killed classic in the first place? If you acknowledge the classic experience enough to play p99, you must understand why it's good, even intuitively. So to want to change is contradictory. And honestly, it's deeply bemusing for those of us who clearly understand why it is good, and what it is, and are pretty happy it exists in the form of p99 at all - imperfect though that may be.

Not going to quote your entire massive post. But seriously man? Just because people say they enjoyed themselves in luclin and liked certain features of it doesn't mean they are trying to usurp and destroy project 1999. Just hearing people say they liked AAs or a certain zone in luclin gets you pretty fired up huh? All i see here are people that liked some stuff about Luclin and later expansions and they are discussing it...but you see an angry mob ready to hold a gun to Nilbogs head and make him add Luclin to the server? What is up with that....seriously?

t0lkien · #2 08-12-2013, 10:55 PM

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Not going to quote your entire massive post. But seriously man? Just because people say they enjoyed themselves in luclin and liked certain features of it doesn't mean they are trying to usurp and destroy project 1999. Just hearing people say they liked AAs or a certain zone in luclin gets you pretty fired up huh?

Dude, did you read anything I wrote?

Champion_Standing · #3 08-12-2013, 10:58 PM

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Dude, did you read anything I wrote?

Did you not read your own last paragraph? You are clearly suggesting that people here are trying to change P99 lol.

webrunner5 · #4 08-12-2013, 11:04 PM

I think Luclin was a giant step up for EQ, and MMO's. The zones were a big leap from Velious. Velious was just a lot of icy, snow covered, wind blowing zones a million miles apart. I still like playing Cats today on live and a Beastlord is still one of my favorite classes. Luclin at the beginning of it was like playing a entirely new kind of game. I guess I and others liked it, you didn't. Fair enough. I still play live today. So different strokes. I play EQmac more now than here also.

P1999 has just stood still WAY too long.

webrunner5 · #5 08-12-2013, 11:18 PM

Luclin in the beginning did not have Stones or the new graphics for grass etc. when it first came out. It did have the Bazaar and Cats plus the Nexus Portals. And AA's. After the stones came out I must admit the old game lost a lot. I don't think the original Bizaar was that bad in reality. The new one, well yeah.

But now there are over 500 zones to play and as a solo player I like it a lot. I get bored easily so I am in hog heaven on live. And there is some neat AA's that do even out the classes like I think the Dev's would have liked it to be in the start. It is just stupid on here that hardly anyone plays a Ranger, Pally at all and even a SK, Druid goes to crap after level 50.

When and if Velious ever comes out it will be full of Warriors, Clerics, Monks, Rogues grouping and Shamans soloing. Sounds pretty boring in the long run.

t0lkien · #6 08-12-2013, 11:49 PM

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But now there are over 500 zones to play and as a solo player I like it a lot.

This is the point right here. EQ classic is not a solo game, by implicit design. You already have so many games like that. Why would it help for p99 to be moved toward that same thing? I completely understand why you like that, and am not criticizing that preference in any way. I (and others) are saying that is not what classic EverQuest or p99 was or should be.

But, positions can only be stated and explained so many times before it becomes meaningless, so I'll bow out now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

webrunner5 · #7 08-13-2013, 04:14 AM

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This is the point right here. EQ classic is not a solo game, by implicit design. You already have so many games like that. Why would it help for p99 to be moved toward that same thing? I completely understand why you like that, and am not criticizing that preference in any way. I (and others) are saying that is not what classic EverQuest or p99 was or should be.

If EQ is not a solo game than why can't a Ranger , or a Necro or a Wizard get in a group on here. You pick anyone of those on P1999 and you had pretty much like to solo or you are out of luck. Oh and your a Iksar or Troll SK that really helps getting in groups also. And guess what none of that is going to change in Velious except the removal of the XP penalty. So woopee the SK might get in a group.

When Velious comes out TMO, FE, IB will have the high end stuff locked up for 6 months. Tons of people are already level 60 so what are their mains going to do? Two years into Velious people will be pissing and moaning just like they are now about Kunark. With no way out.

Like I have said before Velious was not one of my favorite expansions. So I am looking forward to it and not. PoP made all the other expansions look like a cake walk compared to all the work it took to get into PoT. Then is when you NEEDED to group. Only real time you NEED to group now is to get your high end pieces for your Epic.

But I am not complaining about P1999. I have had a lot of fun on here so far. Got better gear than I ever had in the original Kunark for sure. So Nilbog has made a lot of us happy and that is a good thing. I am sure he even smiles once in awhile also. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clark · #8 08-13-2013, 03:28 AM

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I think Luclin was a giant step up for EQ, and MMO's. The zones were a big leap from Velious. Velious was just a lot of icy, snow covered, wind blowing zones a million miles apart. I still like playing Cats today on live and a Beastlord is still one of my favorite classes. Luclin at the beginning of it was like playing a entirely new kind of game. I guess I and others liked it, you didn't. Fair enough. I still play live today. So different strokes.
P1999 has just stood still WAY too long.