Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by p-niner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

700 at launch but little babies didnt want to lose their blue pixels and couldnt hang w broken features not reported in beta.



Keep crying about trains tho

half of that was people that had no real intention of staying on a pvp server and just wanted to try something new, or were banned for twoboxxing and/or MQ

i laugh pretty hard everytime i see a player quote that number as if anything in this universe was going to keep the pop that high.

more realistically 300-350 people would have stayed on that server. and when i talk to ex red players that have since switched to blue, i ask them why they quit red, and do you wanna guess what the number 1 answer was? Survey Says, the community.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unintentional training is blue.

Intentional training is a) griefing and b) a red tactic..and not even a honorable red tactic.

Or Blue.
A mob killing a player is player vs environment by its nature. Whether or its allowed or not is a different question. The trainer did 0 damage to the player = PVE, and its also classic.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or Blue.
A mob killing a player is player vs environment by its nature. Whether or its allowed or not is a different question. The trainer did 0 damage to the player = PVE, and its also classic.

So, if training was legal, I could follow you around and train you all day if i wanted? You would just have to watch out for that environment that is coming down your throat.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by p-niner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Community pre ooc was 50 people in 1 of 2 guilds. I agree at the 300 350 number tho and in time I think were gonna fluctuate there.

We all know some of they key reasons but not gonna b a broken record.

Enable pvp in the no csr zones and end blue training all together.

if they want pvp they know where to find it

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if they want pvp they know where to find it

Then why continue to allow training?

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh sorry, my point was that there is a red server to play. I guess my fun little "picture is worth 1000 words" joke I had in my head did not translate well. I guess the population number was just a little bit more meta of a joke than I thought about! I mean red players seem to be a....special...breed of players. It's sad they have one giant zerg guild, but not my problem.

Ya.. it's pretty funny peoples first thought was "hurr durr u make fun of red, big meany!".

And Sirken I agree, so why is training allowed anywhere on blue still? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why continue to allow training?

Originally Posted by timhutton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And Sirken I agree, so why is training allowed anywhere on blue still? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hate to bust your bubble but training != pvp

[kotton05]

What would removing training even accomplish in VP?

Seems to me it would be a lot of QQ over fraps n stuff, more so than before which kinda shitty for a GM. Enter VP knowing someone might run a train on you.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hate to bust your bubble but training != pvp

It is, however, most definitely, griefing.

[timhutton]

Maybe if you're arguing semantics, however I think this thread clearly shows that most people consider players griefing players via trains something that inherently does not belong on the blue server and red bahavior.

Why do you disagree? I'm genuinly curious.

Edit: that was in response to sirken