Account Trading

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sektor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have bought accounts awhile back. Can the Admins use this against me at any point? Example I get accused of rmting all the time. I obviously do not RMT GMs get spammed that I RMT alot . Could an Admins just ban me making the accusation that I buy accounts to stop the community from spamming them that I RMT?

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[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Sektor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have bought accounts awhile back. Can the Admins use this against me at any point? Example I get accused of rmting all the time. I obviously do not RMT GMs get spammed that I RMT alot . Could an Admins just ban me making the accusation that I buy accounts to stop the community from spamming them that I RMT?

You get accused of it because we have seen the receipt for the purchase. You have propositioned many other players for RMT.

You went onto EZServer and starting talking in OOC about how to spend money to buy stuff there. (obviously not an admission of guilt on R99 but an indication of your tendencies.)

You sir remind me of Ryan Braun.

[Triangle]

Why was the account holding the character Mythoxxus unbanned?

Mythoxxus was originally banned after being traded from his original owner to a new owner who was involved in RMT activity (platlord).

According to your rules, then and now, account owners take responsibility for the actions of past-owners.

However the new Mythoxxus paid platlord or one of his cronies for a banned account (who would do this unless they already had knowledge that it would be unbanned?). Once the new Mythoxxus took over the account, some unknown GM unbanned the account and Mythoxxus is now currently playing on the server.

Here are some SS's of some evidence:

1) http://s18.postimg.org/dkjr9w0ih/EQ000103.png

2)http://s2.postimg.org/ec9iderux/EQ000105.png

3)http://postimg.org/image/hfx2ep8xt/

4)http://postimg.org/image/868m6ssqj/

FWIW: the new Mythoxxus seems like a very decent guy. I weighed for a long time whether or not I should post this, not only because he is a good guy but because I am sticking my neck out as well. However I do not like double standards, especially when they are not really known to the community. I think we deserve an answer as to why this was allowed to happen. Thanks guys.

[senna]

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[Messie]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why was the account holding the character Mythoxxus unbanned?

Mythoxxus was originally banned after being traded from his original owner to a new owner who was involved in RMT activity (platlord).

According to your rules, then and now, account owners take responsibility for the actions of past-owners.

However the new Mythoxxus paid platlord or one of his cronies for a banned account (who would do this unless they already had knowledge that it would be unbanned?). Once the new Mythoxxus took over the account, some unknown GM unbanned the account and Mythoxxus is now currently playing on the server.

Here are some SS's of some evidence:

1) http://s18.postimg.org/dkjr9w0ih/EQ000103.png

2)http://s2.postimg.org/ec9iderux/EQ000105.png

3)http://postimg.org/image/hfx2ep8xt/

4)http://postimg.org/image/868m6ssqj/

FWIW: the new Mythoxxus seems like a very decent guy. I weighed for a long time whether or not I should post this, not only because he is a good guy but because I am sticking my neck out as well. However I do not like double standards, especially when they are not really known to the community. I think we deserve an answer as to why this was allowed to happen. Thanks guys.

quite a post - have you thought about making a forum post w the topic in the server chat? not a ton of people check the news & announcements section and many more will never see this due to the topic differing from your post.

[Llodd]

Nice.

Now, anychance you could backdate this to server birth? That would put the cherry on the cake.

[Ephi]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However I do not like double standards, especially when they are not really known to the community. I think we deserve an answer as to why this was allowed to happen.

Here's your answer: GM discretion. I know, you all hate that.

The general rule is we don't unban accounts that someone else got flagged for MQ2, blah blah blah. But there is a scenario in there where GM discretion comes into play.

There are a variety of reasons why a GM might unban an account with a bad history:

The player:

1. Worked with us to expose a much bigger issue (most common reason)
2. Was patient, calm, and understanding. (rarely works, need more than that)
3. Made a great case for why the character should be unbanned or returned to its original owner (rarely works, must include #1 and #2)

Flame on, but this is how it works. If you get banned, and then help us do some greater good for the server, we might consider reinstating one or more of your accounts (usually stripped or deleveled).

EDIT: I won't be answering follow-up questions to this, or anything specific to the case you mentioned. So, don't bother asking.

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by Ephi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's your answer: GM discretion. I know, you all hate that.

The general rule is we don't unban accounts that someone else got flagged for MQ2, blah blah blah. But there is a scenario in there where GM discretion comes into play.

There are a variety of reasons why a GM might unban an account with a bad history:

The player:

1. Worked with us to expose a much bigger issue (most common reason)
2. Was patient, calm, and understanding. (rarely works, need more than that)
3. Made a great case for why the character should be unbanned or returned to its original owner (rarely works, must include #1 and #2)

Flame on, but this is how it works. If you get banned, and then help us do some greater good for the server, we might consider reinstating one or more of your accounts (usually stripped or deleveled).

EDIT: I won't be answering follow-up questions to this, or anything specific to the case you mentioned. So, don't bother asking.

Thanks for posting this.

[Pringles]

While I support this change.... its too late really. The damage is already done. But at least this removes my temptation to sell a few of my toons off, no need now!

[xarzzardorn]

does this mean some sort of LS password recovery is in the pipeline? I miss my 54 shaman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]