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Old 07-28-2010, 06:41 PM
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You got it some wrong, some right.

The word here is "Should" be based on the HP of the pet, but not the"number" 1, 50, 125, 375 hp or whatever. It should be based on the %HP the pet has left when you reclaim it. if pet is at 33% hp you will only get 25% mana return

This is not the case on P99 However. Try reclaiming a pet a 1% or 100%.
you get the exact same amount back - 75% mana of pet summoning.

Hense it can be vastly abused on P99, unless they change how reclaim works.
Do we have anything that says what % of hitpoints it should be? The current way it is, it will return level of pet * 4 mana. The only numbers I have seen anyone say are 10% of HPs. I am still looking at how good those numbers are. I am out of town at the moment, so my access is limited. Just any numbers on how much mana was returned from an earth pet, should give me the info what I need to extapolate the rest. If I remember right, the 49 earth pet takes 200 base mana to cast. How much mana should a full HP earth pet return?

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Old 07-30-2010, 04:52 AM
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Do we have anything that says what % of hitpoints it should be? The current way it is, it will return level of pet * 4 mana. The only numbers I have seen anyone say are 10% of HPs. I am still looking at how good those numbers are. I am out of town at the moment, so my access is limited. Just any numbers on how much mana was returned from an earth pet, should give me the info what I need to extapolate the rest. If I remember right, the 49 earth pet takes 200 base mana to cast. How much mana should a full HP earth pet return?

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Not sure if it's any help. I just think i remember that pre kunark there were no gain for the mage to reclaim a pet that was serious injured .. eg if it was at 2-3% of its full health. you would hardly get the 5 mana back that reclaim energy cost to cast. The mana you got back from reclaim was indeed based on how much hp the pet had left. What the actual formula was, I'm not sure.

To mmiles8:

The reason Mages used the MS2 or any of the vocaration Earth pets, was that With kunark and velius it became able to get cosiderably more mana back than you used to summon the pet. Wether it was a "feature" or bug I'm not sure, but just the first Vocarate Earth was able to give you almost double the mana back, that you used on the summon, but as far as i recall there weren't really that big of a jump from a focussed (Staff of Elemental Mastery Earth) lvl 49 Earth pet and the 51 Vocarae Earth. the vocarate had slightly higher HP, but nothing really big. I remember being vastly disapointed with the upgrade from the the 49 pet. Greater Vocaration wasn't either a really big upgrade. So I don't believe the formula was based on the max hp of the pets.
For some reason it was just way more efficient on Kunark pets.

At that time i was mega farming Seafury cyclops'es, and the focussed 49 pet performed only slightly worse than a Vocaration pet. Both was able to tank 3 clopses without a problem. The biggest upgrade for Kunark was the reclaimed mana from the new pets and the the ability to kill 3 clopses in no time with sirocco or Manastorm
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