Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't RnFing your post - it's a pretty solid reason among a number of others, in my opinion.

Tasslehof, did you ever think that the staff said to themselves "well shit is going to happen in VP, rules or not, and we don't need another slew of headaches each week," or something to this effect? VP is a large and dangerous zone - shit is going to happen. I can't really blame the staff for not wanting to deal with it. There's damn near 100 zones in which you can play PetitionQuest - I personally am thankful that VP is not one of them because I think if they were forced to sort out foul play issues here, it would seriously discourage action from being taken anywhere.

I'm going for a boat ride - I will add more to this later!

Yes but with the current variance and FTE shouts GMs are not needed. Everyone sees who has FTE. The only thing that stops competition from being real is training. The mechanics are on the server now with FTE shouts and variance to discourage poopsocking...If someone chose to go into VP and Kill mobs between spawns why should training be allowed to stop that ? Adapt to the competition instead of just training as an answer.

[xmonkx]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is your logic behind training being allowed in VP vs outside of VP? I mean, what is the difference? Like vianna mentioned it takes away from the competition, and it really has no place in everquest raiding.

I never stated let training be allowed outside of VP, I just go by the rules and ride that till the wheels fall off. And training does not take away from the competition it adds to it.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never stated let training be allowed outside of VP, I just go by the rules and ride that till the wheels fall off. And training does not take away from the competition it adds to it.

That is what red is for.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never stated let training be allowed outside of VP, I just go by the rules and ride that till the wheels fall off. And training does not take away from the competition it adds to it.

It adds nothing to competition. From either side. Show viably how training a guild adds to competition in any zone. If anything it is used by a guild who is behind to grief in the zone. It is rarely used in a competitive manner in its current state. I am not saying any guild is innocent or guilty here. Those are the current rules. It just has no place in the game anymore. You can't be honest with yourself and say it does.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never stated let training be allowed outside of VP, I just go by the rules and ride that till the wheels fall off. And training does not take away from the competition it adds to it.

Training is hardly competitive....1 person from each raid brings 30+ mobs to other raid, who can log out without losing the most people and come back to train the other guild before they attempt.

wow...thats some hardcore competition right there. So glad I didn't waste any time getting 60 or getting a vp key for that crap. Well at least now i know its not going to be worth 60 in velious and no sense trying to join a raid guild for that bullshit.

[xmonkx]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training is hardly competitive....1 person from each raid brings 30+ mobs to other raid, who can log out without losing the most people and come back to train the other guild before they attempt.

wow...thats some hardcore competition right there. So glad I didn't waste any time getting 60 or getting a vp key for that crap. Well at least now i know its not going to be worth 60 in velious and no sense trying to join a raid guild for that bullshit.

Lol if you think its that easy to train without being counter trained or the mobs ripped off you, you're sadly mistaken. Or fighting to eat dragon charms 1st so you can kill their trainer 1st or so many other strats I will not get into to keep secret. Yah, doesnt add competition, just camp out.......

Pro tip - 30 mobs inc - bladestopper.... think about it.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol if you think its that easy to train without being counter trained or the mobs ripped off you, you're sadly mistaken. Or fighting to eat dragon charms 1st so you can kill their trainer 1st or so many other strats I will not get into to keep secret. Yah, doesnt add competition, just camp out.......

Pro tip - 30 mobs inc - bladestopper.... think about it.

Strats to train people... Sounds like you need some PVP action.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol if you think its that easy to train without being counter trained or the mobs ripped off you, you're sadly mistaken. Or fighting to eat dragon charms 1st so you can kill their trainer 1st or so many other strats I will not get into to keep secret. Yah, doesnt add competition, just camp out.......

Pro tip - 30 mobs inc - bladestopper.... think about it.

Sounds like a real blast, you guys have fun with that. I might go back and try eqlive now that its free.

[radditsu]

Poll numbers.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by eqmaze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

atleast someone gets it


Tass has been the new Harrison now for months, its been proven time and time again he is just upset with TMO.

Yes Train in VP cuz GMs dont have all day to hold your hand
No Trains in Hate Fear or any of that, see the "Dont be a dick" policy
Yes Train in Sleepers see how bad they really wanna kill warders =p
No trains in ToV Armor and raids for all make the whole server a better place

This has nothing to do with TMO.
Why can't the "Don't be a dick" policy apply to VP? What makes it any different than fear/hate? Training is weak, its not competitive and being able to train doesn't make you a good EQ player.