Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Zapatos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The players doing the majority of training in there do it because they want to. I really wish you had spent more time even just observing VP when there was still action to watch, then you'd see just how silly a statement like that is.

History of the server has shown no competing guild can go in there without being trained even if they say they don't want any training. See Vesica Dei: they decided as a guild to NOT train when they went into VP... and immediately got corpsed camped. It took barely a day for their internal poll to switch from 90% against training to 90% for training. I'm not going to put the blame all on the guild who was in there at the time, but I will say that sort of behavior has a positive feedback and it only takes one person to start it.

you clearly missed what i was saying. you say players doing most of the training do it because they want to, maybe instead of assuming how much time i spend in VP, you should be thinking of ways to remove their incentive for training you. or train them back.

i love that you added, "GuildA decided as a guild not to train and then got corpse camped". First of all, who cares what one guild says or dictates? second, its laughable to think that they thought they wouldnt get trained in a zone that sees more trains than grand central station, simply because THEY decided not to train.

all the guilds need to agree to something or it doesnt work. and sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire until the other sides are willing to come to the table and talk.

if you do not force them to the discussion table with your actions, why would they agree to anything? i know i surely would not.

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PS- as for the guy that said he will train anyone not in his guild, well, hes not a guild leader, and if his GL tells him to knock it off, he will. but currently its open season, and hunters are gonna hunt

[musashi1612]

I would agree with sirken on the all guilds need to agree on somthing but we all know thats never gonna happen so exclude the douche bags that you know will not accept the Terms and discuss those Terms with the guilds that are willing to comply Then Maybe Just maybe Sirkens point of making them come to the table will be valid.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you clearly missed what i was saying. you say players doing most of the training do it because they want to, maybe instead of assuming how much time i spend in VP, you should be thinking of ways to remove their incentive for training you. or train them back.

i love that you added, "GuildA decided as a guild not to train and then got corpse camped". First of all, who cares what one guild says or dictates? second, its laughable to think that they thought they wouldnt get trained in a zone that sees more trains than grand central station, simply because THEY decided not to train.

all the guilds need to agree to something or it doesnt work. and sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire until the other sides are willing to come to the table and talk.

if you do not force them to the discussion table with your actions, why would they agree to anything? i know i surely would not.

<3

PS- as for the guy that said he will train anyone not in his guild, well, hes not a guild leader, and if his GL tells him to knock it off, he will. but currently its open season, and hunters are gonna hunt

Zeelot will never tell someone that they can't train a competing guild in VP, You can put that on the list of shit that will never happen right up under instances and luclin.