I just realized whats happening and why Nilbog shows sudden interest in fixing bugs

[Stinkum]

normal human beings already joined the server but were alienated due to poor launch, lack of development on major bugs, FFA ruleset, and the fact that w/absolutely no groups trying to solo your 18 dwarf rogue with a rusty dagger to 60 is about as appealing as seeing amelinda naked

[XiakenjaTZ]

Word is he got the invite to EQ in vegas. I wonder if they will let him run a box if he gets hired to work on EQnext.

[Nirgon]

Trying to solo a rogue does sound like something someone dumb would do, esp if they had played EQ in any capacity before. I've seen many try.

[Danien]

Well, a huge portion of the playerbase was cancerous from the start. There were several times I saw people get invited to groups just to get killed after they had spent 20 mins getting there and other pointless griefing shit. Quit the box for the first time after 2-3 weeks of playing because while I could deal with it, I could not see normal people surviving in that environment.

Imagine my surprise when the server ended up being a ghost town (The population was plummeting long before holo was banned) just a few months later.

[Nirgon]

Most did come here with the mindset of "attack and kill everyone else", and it definitely turned out that way.

The most brutal stories weren't even reported.

[heartbrand]

The type of people that play here is the number one reason this server no matter the ruleset will always have an incredibly low pop.

[Nirgon]

Darkenbane or the rando-PKs never ruled RZ for a reason.

2000 pop server, vs 200 pop server.

2000 people who want the option of PvP vs 200 over immersed scum bags who literally live and breathe grief.

Server without whirl/root spam, "lure" mage pet root etc vs raptors are no longer animals but lava crawlers in same patch note are.

As strong as OG-Holo was on the battlefield, a guild with that mindset would have gotten raped into submission on RZ. Surprisingly, MOST people aren't random PKs who corpse camp and send insanely hateful tells after a 5v1. However, without the ~3 mostly active GMs stomping out no-goodnicks and enforced PnP policy, the poison was allowed to spread.

Example: Corpse camping here legal -> fail (Yes, I did it to certain people. Doesn't mean it should exist)

Some didn't want to corpse camp people just as much as they didn't want to be corpse camped on live.

Doesn't change anything and social analytical pargraphs are a waste of time, and that flavor of troll bait is played out.

You have to account for malignant members in any community and I just don't think that level of enforcement is possible on a private server. I blame the system before I blame the players. The good news about said system, is that after the precedent is set, the shitbag community learns it lesson and less enforcement is required over time.

[big league chew]

randy pks are fine
corpsecamping aint a big deal

whats even is grief? i could see bind camping someone with exp loss enabled being grief, anything besides that is just an inconvinience that could have been avoided with even a moderate skill level
aka play better

[runlvlzero]

As much as I would love a fresh TZ (race war?) teams server with item loot and hard coded (mostly) teams.

I think right now is not the time for new servers. P99 under full on attack by script kiddies and bad sad mad angry sys admins at the ISP level.

We need to get them set up with a router and some network security.

Bug fix the original code pve, and pvp. Just make it work great. And finish the velious database/scripting.

If we rush out with a new teams server its going to be neckbeard exploits 30 pop till 150 pop 101 all over again.

I plan on playing a bunch more on old red 99 FFA but right now I don't have the time to invest with all the crazy shit going in in game and IRL.

GL all. Again, would love a teams server and I hope Nilbog is excited about it too. Just work on fixing up the main EMU fork that you guys are diffing off of.

[Stasis01]

RZ was a shit hole, TZ ruled - rest my case.