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[Beau]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would, and have vehemently disagreed with this statement. 3 of the 6 suspensions that DA has recieved in the past month or so are more than justified (training, training and 2-boxing) - those three people deserved their suspensions and no one from DA argued otherwise.

However, the other 3:
1) Being a raid leader
2) Training... no; wait, being a raid leader... no; wait, looting a contested mob!
3) Accidental training that even the guild that was trained agreed was taken out of context.

Are in no way stipulated as reasons for suspension in the server rules and was extremely contestable.

That is neither here nor there though and is in the past.

As far as number 3 is concerned, the world "accidental" means nothing to most people when you have reputations for being pieces of shit. Especially when there is evidence to back up otherwise. The other two I wont even waste my time commenting on.

As for the other two... Just simply referencing two incidents with vague and incomplete statements doesn't argue one's innocence. It just makes you look like a whining child.

[Beau]

That's funny, I said I wouldn't waste my time commenting, and then I did. Oh well, prolly better that I saved someone else the time of saying the obvious.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Beau [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as number 3 is concerned, the world "accidental" means nothing to most people when you have reputations for being pieces of shit. Especially when there is evidence to back up otherwise. The other two I wont even waste my time commenting on.

As for the other two... Just simply referencing two incidents with vague and incomplete statements doesn't argue one's innocence. It just makes you look like a whining child.

Oh hay, way to have no idea what you're talking about.

Apparently accidental does mean a lot when it is coming from the mouth of the guild leader and officers of the guild that was trained. They agreed that the suspension was unjustified and even had the class to contact server staff stating so.

As for the other instances - I was purposefully being vague as I doubt the server staff OR the people involved would appreciate all sorts of details being brought up in a public forum. The people my post was meant for have all the details and I'm sure fully understand what I was trying to say... you just don't happen to be one of those people.

[Loke]

As for accidental training - it happens and everyone knows it. Just last night DA accidentally trained IB in PoFear... instead of petitioning or crying to GMs, people handled it like adults in private and at least as far as IB and DA were concerned, everything was resolved.

It isn't just us either - DA was trained by the same guild 2 times in less than 3hours in PoFear the other week. Again, it as handled in private and everyone agreed that it was accidental.

ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN.

[quido]

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My god did that smell good...

[Beau]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh hay, way to have no idea what you're talking about.

Apparently accidental does mean a lot when it is coming from the mouth of the guild leader and officers of the guild that was trained. They agreed that the suspension was unjustified and even had the class to contact server staff stating so.

As for the other instances - I was purposefully being vague as I doubt the server staff OR the people involved would appreciate all sorts of details being brought up in a public forum. The people my post was meant for have all the details and I'm sure fully understand what I was trying to say... you just don't happen to be one of those people.

Then it's probably completely pointless to even bring them up. And on top of that, listing them out like they have some sort of meaning or value really serves no purpose either.

The truth is a lot of your members have/had shit that is/was a long time coming. You can't spend several months being absolute garbage as a whole and expect ANYONE to sympathize with you when you put up vague and meaningless garbage. If you want to quote me again and tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about go ahead and take the next few minutes to read through these forums posts for the last few months and note how much your piece of shit establishment is loved.

I love how you are always on the boards feigning innocence for every little thing. Most good officers in what they perceive to be good and legitimate guilds, especially at the end game and competitive level, have enough common sense to ignore false claims on rants and flames boards. But yet here you are, all the time, contesting innocence to the masses, like its some sort of political battle. But then, make no mistake, i'm sure no one is lumping you into that category.

[Loke]

I really have no idea who you are or what your guild affiliation is, but I think if you believe every claim on this board - you're ridiculous. Every guild on this server has been ranted - and the more successful a guild is, the more haters are going to hate. It wasn't that long ago that I was getting messages from people in Divinity and Remedy congratulating us on beating IB to mobs, because back then IB was the big bad evil guild.

As far as me posting here - maybe I like to argue. I also like to call people out when they post ridiculous, untruth claims about my guild. In regards to me being an officer - the results of my actions since being made an officer speak for themselves.

Feel free to keep grinding that axe though bro.

[Bones]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3 of the 6 suspensions that DA has recieved in the past month or so are more than justified (training, training and 2-boxing) - those three people deserved their suspensions and no one from DA argued otherwise.

So how are people getting caught 2-boxing and only getting a slap on the wrist with a suspension?

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So how are people getting caught 2-boxing and only getting a slap on the wrist with a suspension?

No, that was my bad. That person was banned. Although the person was actually 3 boxing and using an account of another member of our guild. The account of that member was only suspended because he was not a part of the boxing and it was taking place without his knowledge. He served his suspension and was allowed to return to the server.

But no, the actual person boxing and the accounts of that person were perm banned.

[CazicThule]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please re-read Nilbog's raid rules. Here let me go ahead and provide them to you. The rules absolutely stipulate you are to respect the raid. That means staying out the way and not interfering until the timer is up. That didn't happen.



The golems were technically the intended raid target since they are required to be killed within 50 minutes to kill CT. Using a rogue to instigate death touches over and over is a form of harassment to the guild going for said mobs. Secondly, it states you are not to engage the target the guild is going for. Instigating death touches from CT, the ultimate target we're speaking of here, is ENGAGING the target. Hence, a violation of the raid rules. If DA had done this I'd call BS also. I don't speak for DA or any other guild on this server. I just can't sit back and allow people to lie through their teeth without calling them out on their BS.


And I'm not touching Cyrius' post with a 10 foot pole. We're not allowed to question a GM decision apparently, regardless how much it defies logic. I've seen the evidence and it was more than conclusive. I'll leave it at that. He chose to ignore it for whatever reason. Probably for the same reasons he 100% GM resed Abacab after he purposely trained Tranix to royals, killing many people in the process.

Why u hating on Cyrius bro? and werent u guilded with Abacab? Yeah Mr G13 i know who you are. your very 2 faced and thats pretty sad im glad u guys been getting fucked im rooting for you WI guys keep up the good run