Teams - whats better?

[KB_Trader]

Originally Posted by Danien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3 teams.

Keeps things interesting when it's not just us vs them, even though one team is almost certainly going to be vastly inferior.

Biggest reason for going teams is people get a built in community whom they can work with. You know who your allies are, and whom you are supposed to attack.

FFA attracts a certain kind of crowd, all of which we probably have absorbed up to this point. People don't attack others because they don't want to alienate them as potential allies, or don't want to exploit situations (killing low hp people and what not) because they feel like total assholes. However if those players are on opposing teams it would feel natural to attack them, it's what you're supposed to do.

I think teams have a larger potential playerbase then ffa.

My ***** Danien w/ the good points and shit

[Stasis01]

Even guildmates have been alienated

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Jepaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well 24 pages later and not a single workable idea better than my page 3 idea.

i dont remember but i bet it was stupid.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Jepaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well 24 pages later and not a single workable idea better than my page 3 idea.

On page three did you cite the known fact that rallos was the best eqpvp server by far and teams are not too cool?

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by Danien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think as someone who already knows who he's going to play with. You have to adjust the server to embrace the average joe's who just start playing without anyone else. FFA helps fostering the paranoia where people alienate people from groups and what not because they are potentially (going to join) the enemy.

People who can not handle this server are filtered off by griefing. It is like a natural cleansing method. It sounds terrible but it is the truth.


The last thing I want is to be forced to guild or group with a bunch of clueless fuck ups that still haven't figured out a 15 year old game.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by peatrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

0 Teams

There are really people who actually enjoy team based PvP? I thought that's what all the new cookie-cutter MMO's have gone to because 90% of the population cannot hack true world PvP combat. Sheesh, now folks are literally BEGGING for it?

Guild politics very often drive end-game experiences and Rallos Zek had it right from the start, just Verant/SOE paid zero attention to the fact that Rallos even existed from beta right on through to retail. The fact that you could death touch almost any INT caster with Ice Comet before PvP spell reduction was just a complete farce and huge lack of foresight from the dev team. Anyway, what i'm trying to say is that people argue and guilds are no different. One simple event can trigger a wave of defections from a poorly lead guild and being locked into preset teams removes all ability to enjoy this completely player-driven aspect of the game.

Blue server has to cry over who engaged a mob first. That just seems ridiculous to me. Whoever is best equipped to take it down should get that chance. We need more PvP population, not another way to divide the community. Different strokes, for different folks.

I agreed with this 100% before server launch. Now though, after having seen the politics here, it really seems that teams would be much more interesting. The politics on RZ (and all the pvp servers) were top-notch, but here they're pretty terrible. Nihilum wins pve, other guilds struggle to form alliances against them but mostly end up just killing each other.

*yawn*

Red99 is stuck in a rut, and it's time to shake things up with teams.

[Caravelle1]

Please please please please have THREE TEAMS

I agree so much with the this guy vs that guy mentality being bad, forcing it into 3 factions solves that. Imagine 3 way fights omg

[KB_Trader]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who can not handle this server are filtered off by griefing. It is like a natural cleansing method. It sounds terrible but it is the truth.


The last thing I want is to be forced to guild or group with a bunch of clueless fuck ups that still haven't figured out a 15 year old game.

You can still have a guild within your tea, so I don't understand what you're getting at. Also, I don't think this griefing your talking about exists on the level you think it does. For the most part, people are pretty helpful towards new people.

[KB_Trader]

Originally Posted by GoodGuyAmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Faerie you realize that you just cant randomly add something like teams to a fully matured server right? Unless they make a SECOND pvp server it aint gunna happen because there will never be a wipe of our current one. You guys really get trolled so easily.


http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...67&postcount=5

The rumor floating around is that it wasn't intentional and an error so your link doesnt really mean shit.

[Gustoo]

Only way teams would be cool is if they split the existing one 2 ways and we all had to deal. Even thatbwould probably degenerate.