history lesson/faq

[Zexa]

Thanks for giving us a response from the very top, Nilbog. This is definitely what I have been looking for, and though it's very subtle I completely understand where it's going.

Unfortunately it's saying that this server will never be anything like a Classic server was. We rolled into your project that was probably initially just designed to be a pet project for your own enjoyment and it sounds like you signed up for a lot more than you were aware of. Being such a small project, the resources to address inter-guild conflicts and bugged content in a manner and time frame that SoE left us expecting is just impossible. I'm assuming that you are the only person who has final say on big issues and no matter how many GMs or Devs are online, anything that we bicker about on the forums will have to be approved or vetoed by you, and that would require more time than any one person could give it seems.

Regardless, it has been a fun run up to this part of the game.

[Dartagnan]

Originally Posted by Bigcountry23 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, but by your earlier comment if somone who has less play time than you is at the Frenzy camp, they should give it to you becasue you have "put in more time".

That's not true. If it is my failure to claim a camp and you are there before me it is yours.

This is what Wenai has basically done:

Imagine me being at frenzy camp. I was there before all of you and I was killing and having a fun time. Backpacks were full of FBSS!

Then Wenai comes in and says, "Dartagnan has too many FBSS's and you have been here too much. I am putting this camp on rotation because others need FBSS too. As such, you will all now rotate.

That's bogus and it is exactly what has happened.

None of you would allow this to happen if you were legitimately at a place before others. It is the one rule of EverQuest that is literally followed no matter what server you are on. If you have a camp, it's yours. You get your item, got to go to bed etc., you relinquish said camp and then next in line gets it.

If you truly believed in this rotation crap, then all our camps on this server should go on rotation because it's not fair that people should be able to camp tons of manastones or whatever else.

[Dartagnan]

Originally Posted by Villide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm saying it's a game...and it's been provided free of charge. I giggle every time I see someone talk about their time spent on this server as if they'd just finished up a day working in the coal mines.

I'm not telling you how to spend your free time, I'm just wondering if a little bit of perspective (such as standing in someone else's shoes) might not be in order.

Thank you, it is my time and I choose to spend it how I want.

You mean to tell me that if you got the manastone camp, you would put it on rotation? Every spawn someone else would get to kill it until you did?

Sorry, but I have never experienced EverQuest that way. You get there first, it's yours. If someone else beats you to it, it's theirs.

Remember Jboot camps? They didn't put those on rotation did they. You waited in line in hopes of getting into the group so you could /random for it. You didn't just walk up there and announce to them that you guys spend too much time there. I force a rotation of this spawn!

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He wants you to shut the f*ck up and enjoy the server he created.

Any particular language you want that spelled out in? I thought he was concise enough about it.

Seriously, give it a rest. If the boards and /ooc were gone tomorrow, it'd be a happer place.

The vast majority don't care what goes on in the upper tier, and have no desire to hear about it.

The thing with leverage is: you have to believe that they care whether you play at all on their server, and then you have to also believe that you are important enough to be answered to 24/7. It's a big no on both accounts.

a) Shutting the fuck up and enjoying a server does not coincide with allowing one guild to exploit, as well as biased, wanton rule-setting.

b) Your "the vast majority don't care what goes on in the upper tier and have no desire to hear about it" comment is so random. Um, okay? I don't give a shit about economics but some people do so they tune into Bloomberg. I can avoid it, and I do, so who cares. What I care about it the myriad of issues which are occurring at the "upper tier" so who are you to tell me I can't express my concerns?

c) You really don't think Nilbog cares if people play on his server? So you're saying he spent a year of his life creating something that he doesn't want anyone to play? My god, you're delusional.

[Widan]

The people who run the server can choose to implement whatever rules they want.

If you don't like it you don't have to play. Voicing your concerns on the forums is fine, but spamming them because you don't get your way is not.

[Reiker]

Right, GM's didn't announce the banning of exploiters. People brought it to their respective servers' rants and flames forum. Same as what's happening here. If you want to get rid of that, transparency is the solution. Otherwise, you're going to have heated forums. GMs also didn't lead raiding guilds on live, either.

[Widan]

If you want to get rid of that just ban the people who spam/flame from the forums. Pretty simple.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a) Shutting the fuck up and enjoying a server does not coincide with allowing one guild to exploit, as well as biased, wanton rule-setting.

b) Your "the vast majority don't care what goes on in the upper tier and have no desire to hear about it" comment is so random. Um, okay? I don't give a shit about economics but some people do so they tune into Bloomberg. I can avoid it, and I do, so who cares. What I care about it the myriad of issues which are occurring at the "upper tier" so who are you to tell me I can't express my concerns?

c) You really don't think Nilbog cares if people play on his server? So you're saying he spent a year of his life creating something that he doesn't want anyone to play? My god, you're delusional.

a) you're still assuming Nilbog wants to appease you instead of wishing you'd just go away. Big assumption

b) tap someone on the shoulder at the bus stop tomorrow and let him know you didn't get to kill Vox this week. His interest in your story is akin to the interest of the vast majority who play here and/or dev/gm here.

c) not people. Whiny, high level people who will never be satisfied. Big difference.. He could /deltree Transcendence and IB tomorrow and be a happier man. Don't think it hasn't crossed his mind. Hell, they are paying bandwith simply to let you whine and scream and moan. Think about how hilariously sad that is for a moment.

[Bigcountry23]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Project 1999 Inspired by true events.


-the more idiocy that is in general chat, the less new people that will play here.

I can tell you that I have discussed this server on one of my other boards and have been sought out by somone wishing to bash it. Not counting the DDoS attack, all of the ammo he gets to attack this server comes from posts and quotes on this board (most of them involving the constant bickering between IB and Trans).

This means that Nilbog's concern is valid (that more idiocy means that less people will want to play here) and that the way people are acting on the board (even if they are the minority) is how the server is being viewed as a whole.

http://www.halforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10353
http://www.halforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10927

[Reiyz]

One thing;

this has been repeated over and over on various emulator servers, on Shards of Dalaya especially: NO MATTER WHAT, it doesn't matter if the respective GM that also leads a raid guild is NOT doing anything wrong whatsoever, the fact that they are a GM and also lead a raid guild will make people go batshit crazy and tinfoil regardless.

So while it sucks for whomever, at the same time it's probably better for server peace if their was a policy, at least to the point of "well, if you want to lead a guild, you should give up your GM duties."

My opinion, is all.