Duping

[citizen1080]

I know the staff can do a query to see whom has the most plat. They could get a list of the top 20 and dig into their logs for last 3 weeks...if large amounts just appeared..well there ya go.

Edit: i didnt real that right first time...yea that would make sense if they are duping items to avoid ^

[Nuggie]

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Not as clumsy or random as a modern MMO; an elegant code for a more civilized age.

I see what you did there. and I liked it!

[fuark]

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Not as clumsy or random as a modern MMO; an elegant code for a more civilized age.

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[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thex dagger may be a poor item to gauge this by. I have a client who recently came back to game, well before the ddos, who had a stockpile of daggers. He was one of the first 50's on the server and was in a position to farm them.

I sold 4-5 of these for him over a ~3 week span.

So part of the influx on these was from him/me and legit.

However, the ones ive been seeing sold currently are not from anyone I sold to as far as i know.

Also I do agree with Halmir, if the duping is purely for RMT purposes they would just dupe plat and if they did dupe high end items they would just want to keep those stockpiled to sell to people for cash, not put them out on the market were young detectives can start connecting dots.

I think AoNs are being duped to them not being LORE so they can be easily stored.

I know manastones are not Lore have they increased in frequency being sold?

[Keykey]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also I do agree with Halmir, if the duping is purely for RMT purposes they would just dupe plat and if they did dupe high end items they would just want to keep those stockpiled to sell to people for cash, not put them out on the market were young detectives can start connecting dots.

I believe new players buy plat. They like being able to buy the items they want in EC. That is part of the "fun".

Sellers need both plat to sell, and then items for the people to buy. They sell the items for the plat they just sold. Sell plat again...repeat.

Just my theory.

[enr4ged]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know the staff can do a query to see whom has the most plat. They could get a list of the top 20 and dig into their logs for last 3 weeks...if large amounts just appeared..well there ya go.

Edit: i didnt real that right first time...yea that would make sense if they are duping items to avoid ^

Except doing searches like that are time consuming and the staff is volunteer.

But give me, or any other knowledgeable database users read access to a backup copy of the database and I'm sure we would gladly help find the source of all the duping. I'm not really sure why this isn't an option unless there's records there they don't want us to see.

[Iwill]

[QUOTE=xCry0x;1041131]I am also going to throw this out there.


Couldn't it also be possible that the influx in AoN for sale is simply from ex IB players coming back after possibly liquidating their accounts aside from certain items that would maintain/grow in value (AoN).. and now are selling said item in order to get going again (buy fungi + cof + epic etc)?

It looks like sellers have been spread around.. two people selling AoN's were tagged mules from Taken. I doubt IB has much to do with it.

[Clark]

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[Clark]

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[liveitup1216]

After nearly 3 years of no wipes, would 1 wipe honestly have you forever living in fear that your chars will get deleted? I'm not arguing FOR a wipe, I'm just genuinely curious as to how that stance is a valid one.

I feel like most of the people saying they would quit after a wipe would in fact come back if velious is actually going to be out this year. Although if that were the case then I'd just say wipe it just before Velious and nobody will leave. Well, nobody you'd miss.