A serious post about duping

[Widan]

don't worry, no one here thinks you're smart enough to be behind this

[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This makes a lot of sense, but why do the forums go down at the same time?

Forums are probably on the same server as login and whatever zones are being duped in. A trade dupe can happen in any zone, and I would imagine they would use the lesser used zones on the same machine as the forums and loginserver.

[Kiwaukee]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been silent lately, but I am posting here to say a couple of things.

First: I am not involved with the DDoS at all. Please stop linking me to them, as I have nothing to do with it.

Second: My actions were completely self-motivated. I've pissed off a whole lot more people than just the p99 community with my actions, so don't think that I have somebody pulling my strings. I don't.

Third: I brought up the server instability/dupe bug in my interview with Tiggles. If I were seeking profit from that dupe, why would I bring it into the limelight?

Anyway, as far as my stance on everything else, I choose to remain silent. Gossip about me as you please, but this post is my firm stance on the matter, and I am speaking the truth.

No one mentioned you, donkey. Quit trying to draw attention to yourself.

You are not a victim. Rot in a fire.

[Masq]

Originally Posted by Myth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds like someone is throwing a bunch of shit at the wall (duping mad items) and seeing what sticks (the shit the GMs don't catch).
To protect the integrity of the server, I like the idea of shutting off player trades until this is sorted out. This amount of duping (if that is really what is going on) is creating a long term economical mess. It may also get legitimate players banned or suspended for purchasing duped items.

The classic solution would have been "server down" statuses on our server select screen and a rollback, once it was determined what was occurring. I'm not saying we need something as drastic as that, but something should be done. The longer it goes on for, the more elaborate this web of duping/trading is going to become and there is bound to be shit that is missed in the thousands of legitimate trades occurring.

this wouldnt solve anything

[xCry0x]

Maybe they do some duping through ec trades to make it more inconspicuous?

A bunch of people doing trades in an empty zone would draw more attention than trades in ec.

[Spacebar]

A side note, and this might add to the thought that people might be duping in zones with a lot of people, but I don't experience many (if any) DDOS's during off-peak times. I play during Australia/Asia time and have only seen an attack happen in the morning or late evening. Admittedly, I rarely play now due to the attacks, and when I do play I just play my alt and am afk reading half the time.

Of course, the attacks occuring during peak times (and the peak fringe) could simply be because the attacker(s) play during peak time. But it might also be that they need to have a lot of people trading to avoid suspicion, or that (I don't know **** about computers) they need to have a lot of people online filling server with some amount of data to be able to force enough additional data through something or other...big IT words...somebody help me here

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Mesenkomaha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Duping, RMT, trading accounts for high level items/other accounts/cash.

Where does the server integrity stand? The economy now and the future?

Is a server wipe still out of the question?

Enquiring minds wish to know!

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Kiwaukee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one mentioned you, donkey. Quit trying to draw attention to yourself.

You are not a victim. Rot in a fire.

Your reading comprehension is as bad as your propensity to groupthink

read the fucking OP moron

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enquiring minds wish to know!

No wipe ever confirmed an hour ago by staff.


No.Wipe.Ever

They are going to delete the dupped items though.

[xCry0x]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No wipe ever confirmed an hour ago by staff.


No.Wipe.Ever

They are going to delete the dupped items though.

Going to be interesting what comes of that... A lot of honest people could get screwed unless they plan to refund the plat?