About Spawn variance.... - Page 30

G13 · #**291** 07-25-2010, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another elitist asshat that tries to promote his own greatness while riding the tails of the established. Welcome to the discussion new guy!

Perhaps you should just read my OP and see that i have no complaints about the poopsocking. I simply pointed out that we should see 16-20 spawns in a 30 day cycle instead of 12-20. Somehow this turned into a debate about raids etc...

Either way you seem to be mislead to think that poopsocking takes some measure of skill or that it can only be done by couple guilds. Or that in fact you are so great because you do poopsock content. Trust me you are not about shit. You are doing this on a EMU with content that is 11 years old. YOU ARE NOT THAT FUCKING SPECIAL MAN!

Nobody said anything about poop socking. This is the strawman you carebears keep trying to fall back on. Maybe you need to re read the current raid rules because obviously you don't understand them. Nowhere in my post did I even mention poopsocking.

You don't have to poopsock to call timers, pressure, roll call, ect. You don't want to roll call though. You want to just login to your little EMU server, zone into sol B, and lazily kill naggy. Other people don't play this game the way you want them to play it though. They are out thinking you. Out playing you. They are organized and want the mobs more than you do. In response, you come and troll the forums with 30 paged threads full of crocodile tears.

Trans couldn't hack it 6 months ago. They aren't going to hack it now. You didn't come back trying to beat IB and DA with the current raid rules. As a matter of fact, IB wiped the floor with your retards 6 months ago when they only used a druid to track and organize after a mob popped. Now you're going to come back and try to change things? You think FFA/FTE is going to give your pathetic guild the upper hand or something? It's laughable. You people complaining of "poopsocking" and that it's just 2 guilds lazily camping a mob's spawn days in advance without any real organization or mobilization ect CLEARLY have no idea WTF you are talking about, or how the game is being played right now at the end game. Zero. None.

Nobody has ever even tried to pressure DA or IB over a boss spawn. Maybe DA once, when Draco happened to pop in prime time, and guess what, DA didn't pull draco in time and Divinity got the kill. Holy shit what a concept. This server could have been bad ass if more than 2 guilds were applying pressure and strategies to the raid rules, but no. That didn't happen. You people rolled over. I remember the foreign guilds on my classic server. They were top notch guilds, dedicated. Here they are non existent. Nobody has tried to ally with each other. Nobody has tried to shake things up in ANY way. Trans? Seriously? You guys rolled over and couldn't even hack it using a druid to track for you and mobilize. You failed miserably. Nobody in your guild would answer a batphone. That didn't require poopsocking. It required a minimum amount of effort. You failed.

You are all irrelevant. Go ahead and continue to make your crybaby threads where you complain and bitch about the raid scene. IB and DA and now WI, the only guild to step up, will slay dragons and gods while you losers farm Phinny and Shiverbacks.

girth · #**292** 07-25-2010, 07:24 AM

This thread delivers. Well worth the time invested. Supreme though, you need to consolidate.

Oh yeah, LOL @ the people who think it's not +/-48.

nerfed · #**293** 07-25-2010, 08:04 AM

AFKing in a zone does not require a poopsock.

Uaellaen · #**294** 07-25-2010, 08:24 AM

sorry mister G13, i think you consumed too much of your self ... calling camping mobs a strategy makes me laugh ... its like saying: standing in the line in a supermarket is my super strategy to get food, i am quite the hunter arent it?

mmiles8 · #**295** 07-25-2010, 08:46 AM

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standing in the line

In this case, isn't it more like, holding the line up in your motorized scooter, while you thrash your food stamps about, claiming superiority to all behind you because you have nowhere better to be?

Dukat · #**296** 07-25-2010, 09:03 AM

First off, I would advocate the random spawn time within the week and FTE claim style. I'd like to see people clearing the planes and randomly stumble upon a boss spawn. I don't see why being chained to a computer should be an activity deserving of reward. I have a full-time job, therefore I lose? In this case why should I even bother playing?

In this vein I also like the idea of having some kind of quest item that can summon a boss. Undoubtedly there would have to be a very steep cost to obtaining this quest item. For example, a potion that takes a month or so to obtain and teleports you to a room with an NPC asking you what boss you want to spawn. Everyone in the raid needs said potion, and it could only be obtained by farming the planes. Whether your guild is hardcore or casual, this is a method that could be taken advantage of.

Point is, we all want to kill bosses. Some want to beat others to the punch, some just want to relax and play on their own time. Neither style is wrong, but one is getting penalized. I understand I'm about to get e-reamed by those that jealously guard their spawns, as well as those that wish to guard the classic-ness of the server. But no one is going to get fed up and leave the game if this was introduced. Which is more than can be said for the system currently in place.

G13 · #**297** 07-25-2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Uaellaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry mister G13, i think you consumed too much of your self ... calling camping mobs a strategy makes me laugh ... its like saying: standing in the line in a supermarket is my super strategy to get food, i am quite the hunter arent it?

What have you and your guild ever done to try and outthink, outsmart, or outplay another guild?

Answer = Nothing

Keep on believing that "camping mobs" and "poopsocking" is like "standing in line at a supermarket". That's far from the case, but you wouldn't know that would you? All of you people claiming to have a better solution still don't get it. Eq is a very flawed game, especially classic. You can create FTE/FFA rules. It won't change a damn thing. The guilds that want it more than you do will mobilize far in advance and be absolutely prepared for when the mob spawns. That is the inevitable conclusion to non instanced content, especially when it's literally 5 raid mobs a week with a variance.

It's obvious you don't understand this which is why your guild doesn't accomplish anything here. The raid scene is what it is. Certain guilds mobilize and prepare for raid mobs way in advance. You either adapt to the situation, or you move your carebear guild over to EZ server. Your choice.

Hogwash · #**298** 07-25-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What have you and your guild ever done to try and outthink, outsmart, or outplay another guild?

Answer = Nothing

Keep on believing that "camping mobs" and "poopsocking" is like "standing in line at a supermarket". That's far from the case, but you wouldn't know that would you? All of you people claiming to have a better solution still don't get it. Eq is a very flawed game, especially classic. You can create FTE/FFA rules. It won't change a damn thing. The guilds that want it more than you do will mobilize far in advance and be absolutely prepared for when the mob spawns. That is the inevitable conclusion to non instanced content, especially when it's literally 5 raid mobs a week with a variance.

It's obvious you don't understand this which is why your guild doesn't accomplish anything here. The raid scene is what it is. Certain guilds mobilize and prepare for raid mobs way in advance. You either adapt to the situation, or you move your carebear guild over to EZ server. Your choice.

Can you take the dick out of your mouth and say that again, I couldn't understand a word you just said.

Skope · #**299** 07-25-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What have you and your guild ever done to try and outthink, outsmart, or outplay another guild?

Answer = Nothing

Keep on believing that "camping mobs" and "poopsocking" is like "standing in line at a supermarket". That's far from the case, but you wouldn't know that would you? All of you people claiming to have a better solution still don't get it. Eq is a very flawed game, especially classic. You can create FTE/FFA rules. It won't change a damn thing. The guilds that want it more than you do will mobilize far in advance and be absolutely prepared for when the mob spawns. That is the inevitable conclusion to non instanced content, especially when it's literally 5 raid mobs a week with a variance.

It's obvious you don't understand this which is why your guild doesn't accomplish anything here. The raid scene is what it is. Certain guilds mobilize and prepare for raid mobs way in advance. You either adapt to the situation, or you move your carebear guild over to EZ server. Your choice.

Guilds used to do that before even with the poopsocking, the point is why can't that happen now? The fact is sitting for 5 days at a spawn limits both the poopsockers as well as the other guilds looking to make an impact. There is no mobilization required in poopsocking, it's defined by the utter lack of it. The only mobilization i see any of you two big guilds doing is a race to see which gets to CT first so they can sit there for 4 days because of the way the spawns have been the last 3 weeks. Having a raid-force mobilization once a week isn't tactics, it isn't effort, it's a loophole in the rules that's been used and abused for months now. When the rules were revised and people weren't poopsocking guilds would actually port up and call timers frequently, but now that it's dragged on for 4-5 days beforehand there's far less of an incentive.

and nobody is vouching for a straight rotation, many of us actually want to track and mobilize. Stuff that actually requires this "effort." Currently the only way of killing a dragon/god is to sit on the spawn for 4-5 days at a time or have a raid force in there and role call or 30min timer on a guild. it's worked twice for us against DA, but it still doesn't work as a system. When a guild mobilizes and gets into a zone within 15mins of a spawn and has to contend with a guild who's been doing nothing at all the past 4 days and still gets the first shot is unfair, it's not right and quite simply shouldn't be happening.

Uaellaen · #**300** 07-25-2010, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What have you and your guild ever done to try and outthink, outsmart, or outplay another guild?

Answer = Nothing

Keep on believing that "camping mobs" and "poopsocking" is like "standing in line at a supermarket". That's far from the case, but you wouldn't know that would you? All of you people claiming to have a better solution still don't get it. Eq is a very flawed game, especially classic. You can create FTE/FFA rules. It won't change a damn thing. The guilds that want it more than you do will mobilize far in advance and be absolutely prepared for when the mob spawns. That is the inevitable conclusion to non instanced content, especially when it's literally 5 raid mobs a week with a variance.

It's obvious you don't understand this which is why your guild doesn't accomplish anything here. The raid scene is what it is. Certain guilds mobilize and prepare for raid mobs way in advance. You either adapt to the situation, or you move your carebear guild over to EZ server. Your choice.

obviously you still dont have a clue what you are talking about. Reading this reply changed my opinion about your name, i now think the 13 stands for your age...

and oh ... we outsmart your poopsocking ... we dont participate in useless shit like that =)