Zimmerman NOT Guilty

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[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Mesenkomaha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You see, your opinion doesn't matter. Neither does mine. We can make up stories about what might have happened or what we think happened but it doesn't matter. Only two people know what happened. One is dead and the other says he defended himself. The state could not prove that Z murdered M or didn't act in self defense. That's all there is to it.

We as computer nerds like to play theorycraft and the general public loves crime dramas like those shitty CSI NCIS Law and Order shows and think they know forensics and law from TV. We can't solve this problem with missing information or making shit up like they do on TV though.

The only true fact we know is that Z has been found not guilty by a jury of his peers because the state could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he wasn't acting in self defense.

the fuck is "we"?

you expressed an opinion. i explained its legal meaning. your opinion is basically that zimmerman got away with murder

h2h

[Nune]

i dont want to argue with big kimm. he will come find me and beat me up irl because hes not mad

[Arclyte]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From a purely legal standpoint, Zimmerman is not guilty, but let’s be serious here, shall we?

He shot a black teenager at point-blank range in the chest, leaving him dead within minutes.

The jury acted within the letter of the law, I guess. But give me a break, he is far from an "innocent" man. I think we all know what happened here, don’t we? Seriously, don’t we?

Yea, the mountain of evidence suggesting Trayvon "NO_LIMIT_*****" Martin was a wannabe thug, which was suspiciously not admitted into court.

Just another piece of shit "gangster" trying to be hard. Fortunately he chose a victim capable of defending himself, or this case would be about just another black man murdering someone, and swept under the fake rug of "socio-economic problems".

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just another piece of shit "gangster" trying to be hard. Fortunately he chose a victim capable of defending himself

It's more accurate to say he met a man incapable of defending himself. I mean, the gun defended Zimmerman. Furthermore, if George had been capable of physically defending himself Trayvon would probably still be alive. Further-furthermore, if George had beaten Trayvon to death with his bare hands -- this verdict would have been different.

Guns are the issue. Not racism nor anything else. Trayvon's dead because even cowards are allowed to stalk the streets armed. Not that it will matter, I mean not even Sandy Hook could provoke any change whatsoever. The NRA is all-powerful and they're the reason this case has been granted the coverage it has. Nothing's better for the gun industry's bottom-line than the state-sponsored murder of black children. This is become sport in America -- and Florida is the untenable incubator of our zeitgeist.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea, the mountain of evidence suggesting Trayvon "NO_LIMIT_*****" Martin was a wannabe thug, which was suspiciously not admitted into court.

You ignore the mountain of evidence suggesting Zimmerman was a wannabe thug. He couldn't even handle being a rent-a-cop because of this thug mentality.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, the gun defended Zimmerman.

The gun drew itself, aimed itself, and pulled its own trigger. Shit. The gun probably loaded itself and snuck itself into Zimmerman's belt before he left the house earlier in the day too. They are magical, magical tools, those guns.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more accurate to say he met a man incapable of defending himself. I mean, the gun defended Zimmerman. Furthermore, if George had been capable of physically defending himself Trayvon would probably still be alive. Further-furthermore, if George had beaten Trayvon to death with his bare hands -- this verdict would have been different.

Guns are the issue. Not racism nor anything else. Trayvon's dead because even cowards are allowed to stalk the streets armed. Not that it will matter, I mean not even Sandy Hook could provoke any change whatsoever. The NRA is all-powerful and they're the reason this case has been granted the coverage it has. Nothing's better for the gun industry's bottom-line than the state-sponsored murder of black children. This is become sport in America -- and Florida is the untenable incubator of our zeitgeist.

You know what? you're right! But why stop there? Remove the guns from the police forces and the military while you're at it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You ignore the mountain of evidence suggesting Zimmerman was a wannabe thug. He couldn't even handle being a rent-a-cop because of this thug mentality.

Like the two cases that he was acquitted for or all the black kids he and his wife had been tutoring for the past decade or so?

[Mesenkomaha]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more accurate to say he met a man incapable of defending himself. I mean, the gun defended Zimmerman. Furthermore, if George had been capable of physically defending himself Trayvon would probably still be alive. Further-furthermore, if George had beaten Trayvon to death with his bare hands -- this verdict would have been different.

Guns are the issue. Not racism nor anything else. Trayvon's dead because even cowards are allowed to stalk the streets armed. Not that it will matter, I mean not even Sandy Hook could provoke any change whatsoever. The NRA is all-powerful and they're the reason this case has been granted the coverage it has. Nothing's better for the gun industry's bottom-line than the state-sponsored murder of black children. This is become sport in America -- and Florida is the untenable incubator of our zeitgeist.

Further proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.

Guess how many murders have been committed by NRA members in the past 5 years? Zero. Guess how many black on black murders have been committed nationwide on a year to year basis? Around 7 to 8 thousand(http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf).

Guns are the problem huh? I guess violence and murder just started happening when the gun was invented. There was never any killing before guns right?

[Mesenkomaha]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if the above happened, fuck zimmerman and he deserved to be convicted of a crime -- possibly even the third degree murder via child abuse that they tried to lay on him.

zimmerman had ZERO right to put his hands on martin or attempt to detain him. if he did, he committed a crime and martin was well within his rights to fight back.

but there's no reliable evidence that that's what happened. the only account we have says that trayvon initiated the physical contact and violence.

you seem to think it's ok if zimmerman grabbed his arm. it's not. if trayvon turned and walked away, he did exactly the right thing

I don't think it is right that in my HYPOTHETICAL example that Z HYPOTHETICALLY grabbed M. Again, no one knows the facts and we are just theorycrafting here. In this example they were both wrong. IF Z did grab M though, does that justify beating the guy up? If someone grabs your arm and asks you a question do you turn around, jump on them and pound their head into the concrete? You're smarter than that man.

They both fucked up, and they both paid the price for making very poor decisions. M is dead because he attacked the guy and Z's life is ruined because he pursued M and probably should have let him go in the first place. There are no winners here.