About Spawn variance....

[Bumamgar]

I can make whatever deals I want to make with whatever guilds I want to make.

So can you...

Also, no one claimed either suggestion was "groundbreaking". They were the rules of engagement that leaders of all three guilds were willing to agree on. That's all, nothing more, nothing less.

As for my reference to "casual" guilds, that's how you referred to yourselves above....

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can make whatever deals I want to make with whatever guilds I want to make.

So can you...

Good. At least that's clear...because DA, IB and WI making end-game decisions by themselves seems about like having Congress vote on their own pay increases...

Oh, wait...

[azeth]

why're you such a whiny bitch 24/7 humerox?

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can make whatever deals I want to make with whatever guilds I want to make.

So can you...

And yet again bringing me to my point before, a man in blue doing so. Do you think they would have cared had your name not been that pretty little color? Could you imagine if they'd agreed to speak to guilds who have actually downed targets without poopsocking? There's a reason divinity hasn't done that and still managed to kill stuff, you can't say the same and yet your opinion is somehow more valuable. If you were really looking to propose a good idea that would be welcome to input from other guilds it would have been done so, instead you give us a sliver of info and the rest is for us to fill in. It's shady, you had to have known that before-hand, I'm just here reminding you.

Want to be treated fairly? treat the rest of us who deserve to be treated at LEAST as equals to you fairly and you may get somewhere with my input. I've never been known to rant but christ, what the hell were you thinking? How could you have not seen this coming from a mile away?

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yet again bringing me to my point before, a man in blue doing so. Do you think they would have cared had your name not been that pretty little color?

Well, considering *I* didn't actually broker the deal, an officer in WI did and I just agreed to it, you might want to learn the facts first...

Oh wait, forum flaming trolls don't care about facts. My bad.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, considering *I* didn't actually broker the deal, an officer in WI did and I just agreed to it, you might want to learn the facts first...

Oh wait, forum flaming trolls don't care about facts. My bad.

I said it was shady and keeping that info is just as shady. You outed it JUST NOW and we had no idea what was going on, yet you're claiming i'm the one ranting and flaming because you weren't accurate. Logic dictates you blame yourself, so quit telling me i'm flaming and fill me in, then perhaps I can actually get to my questions. But this wasn't done, and you didn't take it upon yourselves to do so, therefore I'm skeptical and I have a reason to be skeptical. In fact you still haven't outed it and you're complaining about us complaining that we haven't been treated fairly nor are currently being treated fairly.

Fine... So what are the facts? what are the details? If you don't answer me we can all safely assume our initial presumptions were right.

EDIT: telling me i'm flaming and i'm wrong when you're refusing to give up information isn't helping you any.

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

telling me i'm flaming and i'm wrong when you're refusing to give up information isn't helping you any.

Except I haven't refused to give up any info... You flamed first based on assumptions and never actually asked for any further info.

Edit: sorry, just saw that you asked for the facts and details... I've given them already, but I'll summarize them here for you since I'm sure you need that...

- An officer in WI decided to contact IB and DA leadership to see if he could get them to agree on a set of raid rules to propose with a goal of eliminating camping
- A proposal of First to engage (with a provision to make mobs shout their first aggro target so that it's clear who was first to engage) and a fully randomized spawn variance that still averaged to once every 7 days was agreed on.
- This proposal was PMed to Nilbog who looked at it and rejected it

This was done several weeks ago.

[Humerox]

Well...

He did say the proposal was rejected. So maybe we should concentrate on getting something done.

At least it proves that DA, IB and WI recognize that changes need to be made.

Maybe if more guilds were tabled then those three Bum, Nilbog might consider a change more seriously.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well...

He did say the proposal was rejected. So maybe we should concentrate on getting something done.

At least it proves that DA, IB and WI recognize that changes need to be made.

But only behind closed doors. Keep that in mind.

Bumamgar, that was a HUGE step backwards. A really really poor move on your guys' part, all 3 of you.

[Humerox]

When did devs start actively playing again?

Not only that, why are they involved in server politics?

Before anyone goes waving the ban-stick here...I'm seriously asking. It was my understanding that devs had stopped playing. For precisely this reason.