Spells: 51+ bard songs.

[Stefen]

Post 7-14 Patch, I cannot start a level 51+ bard song if I have a green player targetted. This should not be the case.

If I target a player after I've started a 51+ song, the song remains active and does not stop.

If I have a green con player grouped with me, they receive the effects of the 51+ songs.

[Burt]

Same with group heroism. Won't let me cast if I have a green player targeted.

[falkun]

Aren't bard songs exempt from the 51+ rule because they are always group-only?

[SamwiseRed]

i think its because they moved bard songs to buff window (perhaps changing songs to buffs category)

maybe i dunno

[enr4ged]

Originally Posted by Stefen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Post 7-14 Patch, I cannot start a level 51+ bard song if I have a green player targetted. This should not be the case.

If I target a player after I've started a 51+ song, the song remains active and does not stop.

If I have a green con player grouped with me, they receive the effects of the 51+ songs.

Are they doing the check for low-level buffs based on what you have targeted? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Robdukes]

Confirmed I couldn't play selo's song of travel because I had a lowbie targeted after trading in the tunnel.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Stefen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I cannot start a level 51+ bard song if I have a green player targetted. This should not be the case.

Can someone provide classic evidence or more commentary about this? Starting a spell on a lower level should be the case for spells, but I'm not sure about songs, especially if they function properly after casting on a level appropriate target.

kanras will be the one looking into this, but it would be nice to have specifics worked out asap. Could be that songs should be excluded altogether.

[Robdukes]

Does the targets level matter when im buffing myself? I haven't read the info the change was based on but I would think Selos song of travel should be able to cast no matter what when I'm not grouped right?

[tacomagradd]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone provide classic evidence or more commentary about this? Starting a spell on a lower level should be the case for spells, but I'm not sure about songs, especially if they function properly after casting on a level appropriate target.

kanras will be the one looking into this, but it would be nice to have specifics worked out asap. Could be that songs should be excluded altogether.

I do not know how to provide evidence, but bard songs should be exempt altogether. I even had an issue casting selos song of travel when i had a low level dead mob targeted. There should not be a target check for group buff songs.

I played during classic and bard songs were exempt from this. Thanks,

-Grad

[planarity]

This is also the case for high-lvl self-buffs, for which the target should be irrelevant. For example, I can't cast Demi Lich if I have a low-lvl player targetted.