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Old 07-13-2013, 09:57 AM
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Shit. This entire business is Sketchier than asking for a happy ending at an Asian Massage parlor.

Protip, it's not sketchy if you know how to ask.
On the contrary, this entire episode and the crap behind it has made me feel just as seedy as if I'd been offered a HJ in a massage parlour. At least that is what it is, instead of this subterfuge/deceit/filthy half-truth-ridden epic of a display of the worst in human nature. There's nothing quite so seedy as corruption that masquerades as nobility. And doesn't it always.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:16 AM
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The more I listen and read the greater this sense that everyone is completely full of shit. If the dev's and gm's are running this server out the kindness of their heart, god bless em. But I for one dont know nor ever met someone in my life who would put this type of work into a project (for a buncha thankless entitled douchebags) without some sort of compensation. Really i hope im wrong but honesty feel like the whole thing is a sham.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:28 AM
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Face Off was a great movie. As the basis for a thread, not so much.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:45 AM
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The more I listen and read the greater this sense that everyone is completely full of shit. If the dev's and gm's are running this server out the kindness of their heart, god bless em. But I for one dont know nor ever met someone in my life who would put this type of work into a project (for a buncha thankless entitled douchebags) without some sort of compensation. Really i hope im wrong but honesty feel like the whole thing is a sham.
Are you having fun? You must be since you are here. So where is the sham?

To me, it comes across like this is merely a hobby to the people involved. People do hobbies without making money all the time. In fact most hobbies involve taking a loss financially.

I wish they were more heavy handed in dealing with RMT but it is their choice since it is their hobby and their time they put in. When it comes to such issues they have better knowledge and experience to weigh all the pros and cons of doing so then a user does. Don't like it? Make your own server.

This is not a perfect server and it will never be. However I feel they have done a great job so far (that's why I made a donation to them). It is difficult to regulate human nature. I do not believe they are corrupt, because if they were they would have never had mass bannings and this server would be in very bad shape.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:10 AM
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Heres what im thinking about all this. This guy using the hacks (systolic) really doesnt work, doesnt go to school or have any sort of major social skills.

This guy is just a loser who is butt hurt he isnt making RMT, and wants to stop platlord from doing it. I can understand his pain about RMT but really he's gonna take it out on the community who hasnt done anything with these RMT to make some sorta point? Personally he used the no delay hack once, he likely bought the account used an active hack got busted and is now ratting people out to get his account (that HE likely got banned to start with) back.

Best way to handle this, ban him he has done enought damage to the community. Then put TMO under investigation. Look for any links to trades done with any known Platlord accounts / toons / IPs (if known). It make take a few weeks or months but atlease from talk within the community, amoung players and some other guilds Ive heard TMO is top dog, and wihtin that are some shady players.

That seems to be the best way to go about this from a GM stand point.
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:27 PM
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Even if tmo is found to be guilty...if GMs are getting a cut, why the hell would they do anything about it?
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:30 PM
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Yes, I lied about MQ2.

I was also just informed that there is basically no way that the exploit can be traced retroactively, so people who have used this in the past who may stop using it now are completely off the hook.

Essentially this will end up solving nothing other than getting me removed from the server, which is something I had already done myself anyway.
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This guy just drama imo, no proof has been submitted. Lies and Hax . Watch the full interview. Public post some proof or gtfo.
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:42 PM
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Even if tmo is found to be guilty...if GMs are getting a cut, why the hell would they do anything about it?
Because if it is found that they are making money from this venture in anyway they open themselves up to legal action from Sony.
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:48 PM
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First off, the stream was entertaining to listen to while hanging with my guildies killing stuff. My criticism of the streaming moderator is that you say little things here and there that annoy people. Making fun of Rogean's accent, correcting the viewer count when the number quoted was off by a couple all made me (and others) groan.. Good interviewers stay out of the way and let the guests do their thing while guiding the conversation and keeping it on track. Also the advertisement at the end was so cheesy..
Secondly, from the point of view by many watching, this whole thing seemed to boil down to the guy trying to get his account back and that's it. It kept coming back to him being pissed off that he lost his account because the same rules were applied to his situation that have hit others. It's well documented, people who buy accounts often get screwed over because the account they bought was probably leveled up using MQ and it gets detected and eventually banned. Anyone truly concerned about the server would have gone directly to Nilbog and if ignored or no satisfactory result was achieved, go to the players with all the info. The approach taken completely killed off any trust or belief that anyone would have had for him. Honestly, if I were the staff, right after the MQ use was identified and admitted to I would have yelled peace out, dropped the mic and walked off the stage. That was the awesome slam dunk, game over moment of the show.. That they stuck around only served this guys purposes further, giving him more air time, and more opportunities to get details out of the GM's on what they know / don't know or how things operate behind the scenes, all great intelligence for people trying to scam / hack the system.

This BS drama is being dragged out longer by dangling the carrot in front of everyone with this mysterious information he has, thus keeping the spotlight on him longer. It's like these companies that pull crap like "if we get 1 million twitter followers, we'll donate money to help fight cancer in kids". It makes them look like scumbags who could care less a bout the cause and more about themselves. That's all this guy is.

I have to say that the best part of all of these streams from involving the GM's is that it gives us all a peek behind the scenes of the server operations. It's far more informative and meaningful that posts to forums which degrade into asshattery. Having transparency without giving too much intel to those who would exploit the system is a great move. I'd love to see more originating from the staff (interviews etc) than from players.
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:49 PM
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Because if it is found that they are making money from this venture in anyway they open themselves up to legal action from Sony.
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