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Old 07-09-2013, 01:22 AM
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getting cis white dudes to admit rape culture is generally as difficult as getting cis white dudes to admit white privilege or heteronormativity or patriarchy.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:28 AM
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getting cis white dudes to admit rape culture is generally as difficult as getting cis white dudes to admit white privilege or heteronormativity or patriarchy.
I admit to all three and I think all three are fantastic.

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Old 07-09-2013, 01:59 AM
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getting cis white dudes to admit rape culture is generally as difficult as getting cis white dudes to admit white privilege or heteronormativity or patriarchy.
When anime pedo boy claimed no one knew a rape survivor, I couldn't help concluding that means he doesn't have any female friends at all.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:21 AM
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getting cis white dudes to admit rape culture is generally as difficult as getting cis white dudes to admit white privilege or heteronormativity or patriarchy.
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I couldn't help concluding that means he doesn't have any female friends at all.
I do, a couple of them have had to live with various forms of harrassment, 2 of them are survivors of sex crimes (they were sober so I have sympathy). What's your point? Are you going to be one of those "Every girl who reaches sexual maturity will be and has been raped before they turn 20" people? I know a few of those, they're white men and they're all 25+ year old virgins. White-knighting gets you far. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you have to say about the 5 girls I know who brag about having accused guys of rape to ruin them? It must be ok because they have penises and automatically deserve it right?
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:28 AM
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The fact you dudes still post here religiously during the summer is pretty sickening.

HBB: Still making trash reddit re-post threads.

Kagatob: Still making irrelevant, bland and outright humorless posts.

Alawen: Still acting like the shining beacon of justice and wisdom in this RnF cesspool, a personal crusade that takes place second only to making shitty clay sculptures as his emotional release in life.

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Old 07-09-2013, 09:45 AM
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The reactive voices want to blame a rape victim for her own rape based on no evidence whatsoever.

That's rape culture and these are rape apologists.
I guess I must have just skimmed over the rest of the thread, but who's making this claim....?

What bothers me is that you (and by you i mean the opposing voice in this argument) seem to think that anything with a dick accused of rape is clearly guilty and every case is black and white when there is a lot of grey area in this matter.

Rape is rape is rape is rape is simply not true, each case is different and unique, and just because the female is crying rape doesn't necessarily make it true.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:25 AM
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Your logic completely escapes me. There is no male testimony and no male to advocate for. The woman is an anonymous voice on the internet. It seems unlikely that she will ever even file charges. Yet somehow a chorus of hate needs to blame her for being raped and make excuses for his behavior.

I have not been referencing any general case. This is a specific instance. The statistics say what they say, and specious arguments will never counter evidence. Switching rapidly between a single instance and a general case introduces informal fallacies of hasty generalization and slothful induction. Seriously, try to think better.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:48 AM
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Your logic completely escapes me. There is no male testimony and no male to advocate for. The woman is an anonymous voice on the internet. It seems unlikely that she will ever even file charges. Yet somehow a chorus of hate needs to blame her for being raped and make excuses for his behavior.

I have not been referencing any general case. This is a specific instance. The statistics say what they say, and specious arguments will never counter evidence. Switching rapidly between a single instance and a general case introduces informal fallacies of hasty generalization and slothful induction. Seriously, try to think better.
maybe you missed the intentional ambiguity in her statement. she says she fell asleep yadda yadda yadda woke up the next morning with apparent penetration.

that's a huge time lapse. she wasn't asleep. my assumption would be no memory receptors indicating black out because like as i said before, if she were simply asleep, the act almost surely would have woke her up. maybe she was passed out, but we don't know and she didn't actually specify. we do know that she had intimate feelings for the man. i know a girl that does this exact same thing. she goes out with a guy, gets black out drunk, then screams rape. she really does this exact same scenario. and she keeps doing it, too. she doesn't try to curb her drinking. she doesn't try to curb her drunken sex. it's a mess.

it's not automatically a rape. there's still a lot of yadda to work out.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:19 AM
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You should def hit that, imo.
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:11 PM
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HBB: Still making trash reddit re-post threads.

Kagatob: Still making irrelevant, bland and outright humorless posts.

Alawen: Still acting like the shining beacon of justice and wisdom in this RnF cesspool, a personal crusade that takes place second only to making shitty clay sculptures as his emotional release in life.

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