FTE shouts

[happyhappy]

I think the issue is less of the mechanics but more the people trying their darnest to find loopholes to take advantage of.

You are all the reason why people get sued for not specifying their packets of nuts may have contained traces of nuts.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Due to the extended windows, this does not really happen anymore.

recheck nobs

[Ele]

Can we atleast exchange the current variances for new FTE shouts? Or will we be having both?

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we atleast exchange the current variances for new FTE shouts? Or will we be having both?

Extended windows are working. Get back in your cage.

[Nirgon]

You stay off Ele or I'll troll you for the rest of your life and internet stalk you everywhere.

Need a full staff of ex players who hate everyone to be GMs, remove variance and put in FTE shouts.

Done deal.

JK on the stalk thing but yeah Ele makes posts I like to read so I will be belligerent when defending.

[knix]

Originally Posted by knix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If FD doesn't clear aggro completely it will be murky imho.

For the shout to work with minimal guide assistance FD needs to clear aggro completely so if the FTE FDs, it will shout again. Or a de-aggro shout when a FD occurs.

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a really stupid question Knix. What do you do currently when you don't have FTE? You disengage.

I will humor your mean spirited query here. You apparently didn't comprehend my question, the question was when the initial FTE feigns death. Currently we have to fraps to show guide staff that the the initial engager had flopped.

I am not going to address the second part of your question, as its irrelevant to the thread. We know what to do when we don't have FTE.

But, this call will make it more likely for shenanigans if monk A guild knows he has agro, (and wont lose fte while feigned) they will be more likely to do whatever to get on the agro list before monk stands back up and dies. When they didnt earn it because the FTE person FD-

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You stay off Ele or I'll troll you for the rest of your life and internet stalk you everywhere.

Need a full staff of ex players who hate everyone to be GMs, remove variance and put in FTE shouts.

Done deal.

JK on the stalk thing but yeah Ele makes posts I like to read so I will be belligerent when defending.

Translation: All the worst bits of original EQ must be hatefully recreated in excruciatingly painful detail. The good bits are to be tolerated if, and only if, it can be proved by rigorous forensics that they really did exist, and then they may be allowed a brief cameo before being rendered irrelevant by the same tiresome asshats and dirtbags in-game who have driven the devs here to invent this horribly annoying variance mechanic. But all of the shit is mandatory. Every last bit of shit is required, large or small, real or just rumored, especially if it was just rumored.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Extended windows are working. Get back in your cage.

For who exactly?

I can see it now:

Create yet another non-classic mechanic to deal with another non-classic mechanic that never worked in the first place (I'll be taking bets on how long FTE shout lasts before that too is broken). FTE shout is much like variance in that it's yet another bandaid on a bandaid to treat a self-inflicted wound.

You could just stop stabbing yourself, but what the fuck am I thinking, right?

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For who exactly?

Your issue is with the variance itself not the extended windows. Extended windows make the variance better at what it was designed to do. They're only an "additional" non-classic solution in that whoever created the variance in the first place didn't think of them at the time.

It's fruitless to argue against extended windows with the idea that the previous variance had an upper limit that allowed everyone to just sit on the spawn when you only had a few hours to go. If you consider sitting on the spawn while counting down to a guaranteed pop a viable and proper situation then you're better off arguing against the variance itself and not the recent modification.

Originally Posted by Writ3r

Careful that dude is the one who came up with the terrible extended variance idea that just so happened to "accidentally" get implemented. He may fight tooth and nail to make it appear valid no matter how ridiculous it actually is considering the selfishness he displays within the very way it would have and has since just benefited his guild primarily.

See above. Also, attack the idea not the person, you might get more traction. I know I'm always advocating that TMO steamroll people, but have a little faith that maybe I just think it's a good idea.

[xarzzardorn]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For who exactly?

I can see it now:

Create yet another non-classic mechanic to deal with another non-classic mechanic that never worked in the first place (I'll be taking bets on how long FTE shout lasts before that too is broken). FTE shout is much like variance in that it's yet another bandaid on a bandaid to treat a self-inflicted wound.

You could just stop stabbing yourself, but what the fuck am I thinking, right?

working to create encounters that aren't just loot pinatas. extended variance creates situations where guilds are forced to engage with the lowest numbers and most difficult to manage scenario. FTE shouts are another win-win to ensure players are actually experiencing content not just soaking up pixels with near zero effort